The Hero Challenge 001 – David Grange

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Richard Matthews  

Hello, and welcome back to the HERO Show. My name is Richard Matthews. 

 

I am still adventuring down here in Southern California in Santa Barbara, 

 

If you’ve seen for the last couple of episodes? We have no internet connection, but we’re staying. 

 

So I’m here. And I should have David on the line. David, are you there? 

 

David Grange  

I am. 

 

Richard Matthews  

Awesome. Glad to have you here. David. It’s David Grange 

 

And David does something that I’ve never heard of before he does-

 

He’s a life coach that specializes in adventure life coaching. 

 

So David, I’m going to let you sort of introduce yourself and tell us what it is 

 

That you are known for now, why do people come to you? 

 

David Grange  

Well, thanks, Richard. What I’m known for-

 

Is my flare for adventures, I grew up in Alaska, and just spent time 

 

Recreating in the outdoors and really growing my passion for pushing myself 

 

Whether it be packing or skiing, or hiking, or backpacking 

 

And just goes on and just what I love doing. And so what is interesting 

 

Is combining my passion, really for pushing yourselves in the outdoors, 

 

Exploring new areas, hiking new trails, and combining that with then coaching.

 

Life coaching, personal coaching, executive coaching. So what I do with clients, 

 

They all meet up sometimes in person, a lot of my clients are still over the phone. 

 

But I’m starting to have retreats happening semi-annually. Where clients will come out, 

 

They’ll join me for three-day weekend, as a group. And then we’ll adventure, 

 

In some of my favorite places, whether it be places along the Rocky Mountains, 

 

In Southern Utah or Alaska. So they come out we have a three-day weekend together.

 

Adventuring, seeing new things, experiencing new things. And then, for the next six months, 

 

I’ll coach them, know, directly apply those experiences and the metaphors from that. 

 

Richard Matthews  

My curiosity then is how did you get started doing that? 

 

How did you go from someone who just likes adventuring to getting into a life coaching? 

 

With adventure as a basis? Like how did that happen? 

 

What was the story that they got you from? Just being a normal guy 

 

Who likes to adventure to being a business coach who uses this? 

 

Who uses adventure as your medium? 

 

David Grange  

Great question. So out of college, I got into hospitality, and in the hospitality realm

 

That took me to Maui, or my wife and I worked for a year over there, 

 

And then to Sundance Mountain Resort in Utah. And then now to Sun Valley, Idaho. 

 

And I really love hospitality, I worked for mountain resorts, beach resorts. 

 

And it was great. A lot of like corporate lessons learned. But there it was still 

 

Just using a fraction of my passion, so to say. And so, by divine design, 

 

I happened on a hiking trail, I ran into a couple life coaches, and they were telling me, 

 

Who they were and what they did. And so I started doing some research 

 

And looked into some certification programs. And I decided to bite the bullet 

 

And learn more and actually gain classroom skills in the coaching realm. 

 

So I did that as a side hustle. So I was doing that on the side, 

 

While also my day job was hospitality. But it quickly became obvious 

 

That my passion is connecting with people, 

 

And really helping them live their most fulfilling lives, as a coach. 

 

So on October 15, I had the opportunity to say no to my day job 

 

To say yes to my dream job of coaching. And as I made that kind of stuff 

 

At then, I was exploring and really pushing myself in various outdoor capacities. 

 

But I love taking people out. So apart from business, I would love taking people out 

 

And summoning a peak with them, or paddling across a lake 

 

Or a body of ocean to camp on islands. And it was amazing for me to see 

 

The growth of the people I was with where they didn’t think something was possible, 

 

But they would walk away from it a new person, seeing the world differently, 

 

Having new beliefs of themselves, and then a new lens to see the world. 

 

So that was just on the side of recreating with people. So then I say, 

 

“Well, I own my own coaching practice. So I’m going to create it the way I want it.”

 

And that’s really what fulfills me the most is coaching, as well as adventuring. 

 

And really helping people see the world differently, and themselves differently to then … 

 

And live their best, most fulfilling lives.

 

Richard Matthews  

So you really got the chance to design your business around what you wanted to do. 

 

So you just built, you built a business, just exactly what you wanted, which is fun. 

 

Not everyone builds businesses. that way a lot of people build businesses to, 

 

To either build a product or change the world or just little things. 

 

And then, it sounds like you built a business to let you live the life you want to live

 

While still helping people and still providing value. So that’s very cool.

 

David Grange  

Thanks, Richard, it really came down to -I love helping people. I love adventuring. 

 

So let’s create something where I can do all of that, and provide for my family 

 

Save for a rainy day.

 

Richard Matthews  

Awesome. So wht don’t you tell me this, 

 

What do you think your superpower is in your business?

 

It’s the thing that you do or build that really helps solve people’s problems? 

 

And if you just could name it and say, This is what my superpower is? 

 

How I help people, what would that be? 

 

David Grange  

I’m contagious and I’m optimistic.

 

And when I talk to people, I help them see their own selves and their own possibilities. 

 

And then I’ll challenge them to live it. And that’s in its simplest form. That’s what I do. 

 

Richard Matthews  

I like that. 

 

I tell people where I’m aggressively optimistic. So similar thing is 

 

Someone cuts you off on the road. And I’m, my first thought is like, 

 

Oh, that person must be going, to rushing to the hospital that gets his wife to, 

 

To the pregnancy or whatever. So you always just default whatever 

 

The best possible reason for that is.

 

David Grange  

And I mean, and that is, I mean, in my opinion, that’s such a great quality. 

 

And that’s where just my natural inclination goes there because I’ve lived it.

 

And I am happier and more fulfilled when I can be my best self 

 

Which is contagiously opimistic and then really connect with people.

 

See their spirits, their souls, and help themselves in limited capacity that they are.

 

Richard Matthews  

So my curiosity is who is your your target market for the coaching? 

 

Is that other business professionals? Is it people working nine to five, 

 

That they just don’t get out enough. They spend too much time in the cubicle 

 

Who are the people that reach out to you? And you end up working with the most?

 

David Grange  

Right now, Richard, as I’m still in the growing phase of my business, 

 

I find myself working with a lot of young professionals 

 

Who are typically two or three jobs out of college. Where they’ve rushed into their careers, 

 

They’ve really … and they’ve been pinned and then all of a sudden they’re there. 

 

They’ve arrived where they want it to be. And if it’s not, they thought it would be 

 

They’re not fulfilled, and they’re living. 

 

The life they wanted. So that’s who I find myself currently working a lot with. 

 

Building my client base has ranged from 18 year olds to 63 year old retirees.

 

Who are now empty nesters and looking for what fulfills them. 

 

But my target market is really young business professionals, 

 

Who are excited to make changes and honor their values 

 

And take action to live their best lives.

 

Richard Matthews  

I love that marketplace, too, because you’re working with people who are, 

 

They’re sold a book of goods, like a bill of goods, and then they go and they do those things. 

 

And they end up with a bill of goods. And they’re like, 

 

This isn’t really what I thought it was going to be. And so you’re offering them 

 

A glimpse of what I like to call like lifestyle design, where you realize that  

 

“Hey, I can actually build my life to do the things that I want to do.” 

 

And maybe you still work, you still run your business, 

 

You still do whatever it is you’re doing, but you actually have something

 

Going on in your life that you enjoy and it doesn’t have to all be work.

 

David Grange  

And one thing I found, Richard too, is because I realized that everyone maybe 

 

Can create their own job and design it … 

 

How I have necessarily, well I turned my own business and I molded it to fit right in line with that. 

 

I recognize not everyone can do that. But what we can do is the way we see our work 

 

The way we see how we show up to our jobs. And that’s where I’ve really been …

 

Meet to work with business professionals where they may have come into our coaching, 

 

Seeing work as only a way of earning money to pay for their house and car. 

 

And yet, after coaching with them, then they can see there’s connections that I can make. 

 

There’s humans that I’m working with, who have values and who I can really connect with 

 

And motivate and inspire. And that fulfills them. So that’s where I really love 

 

As well as, taking them where they are, and not saying,

 

“Oh, man, lose the job and create your new one,”

 

But rather, how are you viewing it? And what lessons are there right under your nose 

 

That you can learn and grow from and use to take either to next step or

 

 To blossom where you are.

 

Richard Matthews  

So have you talked much with your your clients about, I call the idea of, 

 

The permission to play. Where we tend to be our most creative 

 

And our best selves and do our best work when we have taken the time to actually recreate. 

 

And I know a lot of people, they get to the weekend or they get to whatever it is they’re doing 

 

And they still, they haven’t disconnected. They’re still in their work mine and stuff like that, 

 

Because they’ve never really given themselves permission to play. They think like there’s

 

The responsible people who work and there’s a non-responsible people who play 

 

Without realizing that it’s the play that really unlocks your greatest potential.

 

David Grange  

Exactly, Richard, that’s one of my biggest principles is you can’t pour from an empty cup. 

 

And so many moms I work with, so many …  I work with, 

 

Or young husbands or wives feel guilty, taking time for themselves 

 

To go for that morning run, or to go for that back country ski lap, 

 

Or to go on that mountain bike ride. And that’s exactly it. 

 

Where what fulfills you? What fills your cup? Because the things you can do 

 

To fill your cup and you runneth over. And you can be a better spouse, 

 

You can be better dad, a better employee or a better neighbor, a better person.

 

So who are you not to go on that mountain bike ride? 

 

And that’s really, as I said, it’s giving them permission – permission. 

 

And that’s permission to play or permission to fill your cup 

 

To show up your best-self when you get back.

 

Richard Matthews  

I just call it permission to play, cuz I like alliteration. (laughter)

 

David Grange  

And that’s a great way to go.

 

Richard Matthews  

So what I want to talk about next is your fatal flaw. 

 

So fatal flaw, Superman has his kryptonite, Batman is not actually super 

 

talk a little bit about something that has either held you back or 

 

That has been difficult to overcome in building your own business. 

 

And more importantly, what have you done to sort of overcome that? 

 

So that other people who might suffer from something similar can learn from you.

 

David Grange  

I mean, being the Playboy that I might be in, on in some ways of  – 

 

I absolutely get out and back under ski and mountain biking climb. 

 

And I mean, I believe in that. My fatal flaw is finding that balance, though sometimes. 

 

Like yesterday, for example, Richard, I wasn’t quite done 

 

With bringing some edits on my website, … to mountain biking. 

 

And I thought, well, I can work on it when I get home. 

 

I seize the moment, and I had a great ride, but I couldn’t really enjoy that ride to the fullest. 

 

Because I kind of felt bad for myself of, “Aah, I should have stayed focused

 

Finished the work and then go on a ride” 

 

So for me, sometimes I say “Yes” to the outdoor opportunity. Little too easily. 

 

But what I’ve really tried to help with that is, there’s an incredible book called essentialism. 

 

And it has a great chapter in it about priorities, or rather priority.

 

What is your priority, and the origin of priority means – the one. 

 

But in the early 1900s, it was introduced in the English language.

 

Prioritize

 

You’d say, “What’s the one thing we’ll make today, great? 

 

And when I can do that, well, finishing this work thing, or if it’s been a little while

 

Since I’ve recreated going through that bike ride, or going through that climb, 

 

Or, whatever that is. So what is your one priority for the day? 

 

Live that, and then it’s a domino effect of what comes next. 

 

But make sure you’re doing at least the one thing each day.

 

Richard Matthews  

I like that too, because it’s one of the things that I do. And it’s like 

 

You have a list of things like these are the things that need to get done, 

 

Or this is the thing that needs to get done. And nothing else. 

 

Because if you make a little bit of progress in your business, 

 

You check that thing off, and you get it done. Then you have the freedom

 

When you go and take that bike ride, or go out with play with your kids 

 

Or whatever to disconnect. Because you’re not thinking yourself, 

 

“Oh, I should have finished it.” “I should have done this thing.” “I should have done more.” 

 

And it’s important in both ways. If you don’t actually list out your priority, 

 

And say, “This is what I need to get done,” then you’ll never know 

 

If you got it done. So you’ll always feel connected.

 

Like you need to be doing something. So if you actually 

 

Take the time to write it out and say, “Hey, this is what I’m going to get done” 

 

And and get those things done. And then you have given yourself permission to play.

 

David Grange  

Exactly, Richard. That’s exactly it, write it out, physically write it out, 

 

And come back to it that night, and hold yourself accountable. 

 

And look at that goal you wrote down. 

 

Did I do it? What will make tomorrow even better? Boom. 

 

And, that’s been very effective, not only with myself, 

 

But also with my clients where they come to me with a lot of noise.

 

A lot of chatter in their lives. And that’s where it’s like, take a deep breath, 

 

In through the nose out through the mouth, 

 

And what’s the one thing that we want to focus on, and it’s amazing!

 

It’s amazing what happens where they focus on the one, 

 

And the rest of their life goes dark. They have a spotlight on what’s most important. 

 

Richard Matthews  

And then you could just get it done and move on. 

 

Which, if you do that every day, it’s amazing what you’ll accomplish in a couple of years. 

 

You might be disappointed. You might be disappointed in six weeks, 

 

Which is about how much attention most people give things. 

 

But if you give yourself a couple of years, you’d be amazed what happens 

 

If you put a little bit of effort in every day?

 

David Grange  

So Amen. Great. 

 

Richard Matthews  

So what I’m talking about is your common enemy. So common enemy is basically, 

 

It’s if you could go into your clients life, when they first hire you 

 

And remove one thing that you know is holding them all back, 

 

It’s a commonality you see . If you could just wave your magic wand 

 

and take it out of their lives immediately. 

 

And know that they would just get faster results with everything 

 

You’re going to teach them afterwards. What would that thing be?

 

David Grange  

One, eliminate something for my clients thinking?

 

Richard Matthews  

From your clients life, from their life, whatever it is.

 

David Grange  

I think one common enemy is, “I don’t have time.” 

 

People are so busy that they if I could eliminate that belief in them, 

 

“I don’t have time for that.” “I don’t have time for me.” 

 

“I don’t have time to eat healthy because it takes … “I don’t have time to exercise.” 

 

“I don’t have time for my this or that.” And if I can just wave my magic wand 

 

And help them realize you have the time, here’s your blank day tomorrow, 

 

Fill it in with what needs to happen, what you want, and what you hope to happen.

 

 And that … kind of one disbelief, “I don’t have time.”

 

Richard Matthews  

So how do you work with that client?  

 

So my curiosity is how do you go about helping someone get over that? 

 

I know you don’t have a magic wand. So you can just immediately changed that for them. 

 

So what is some of the things that you do to help people overcome that?

 

David Grange  

Well, we’ll explore that, if I hear that, it’s like, “Oh, my ears are ringing.”

 

You know, Dave, I just don’t have time for that. 

 

What do you have time for? What is it to have time? 

 

Or we’ll go back to values, core values. And one thing I love doing with clients, 

 

Making a list of their personal top 10 or 15 values, and then we’ll go through and score those. 

 

And it’s surprising, where they might really value for example, nature, 

 

But then they give them a score of three on from one to ten. 

 

It’s like, well, what would that have had to be in …

 

Go into that? Well, what does that look? What does that look like in practice for you?

 

And then they’ll tell me, “Well, it looks like this might be doing this when I go on a hike 

 

And I’m …here.” And then accountability is huge. 

 

That’s kind of a simple quick example. I’m telling people. What is …

 

Richard Matthews  

So your forcing them to actually think about it, think about, what their day is 

 

And what they’re putting effort into? And you’re just making them think about 

 

What’s actually, they’re putting their time into, by scoring it.

 

David Grange  

Exactly. Where are you putting our effort? I mean, as Dale Carnegie or 

 

Maybe as Covey says, “The enemy of the best is the good.” 

 

And that’s, we can fill our lives with good things, absolutely. 

 

But what are the best things we can be doing. And a powerful question I love asking is, 

 

“What do you need to say no to, in order to say yes, to the best.”

 

And thats …

 

Richard Matthews  

Thinking through that, too, when you’re actually going through 

 

What is the things I want to spend my time on? And you actually,

 

Like, a lot of us just live, I call it reactionary lives. You’re just reacting 

 

To the things that are happening your life. You haven’t actually planned it.

 

It’s just like, life is happening to you. If that makes sense. 

 

So you’re forcing them to stop that a little bit and actually think, 

 

“Okay, what am I gonna actually do with my day? And be in control of it?”

 

David Grange  

Yes, let your values be your compass, instead of just reacting, as you said.

 

But let it be your core values be your compass and guide you throughout the day,

 

Instead of reacting to your day.

 

Richard Matthews  

That’s really good. So we’re going to move on a little bit and 

 

Talk about the other side of the common enemy. And that’s the driving force. 

 

So if your common enemy is that thing you’re fighting against

 

Your driving force is the thing you’re fighting for.

 

So Spider Man fights to save New York. Batman figths to save Gotham, 

 

Or Google’s fights to categorize all the world’s information. What is it that you fight for? 

 

If you had a mission? And you could articulate it? What would that be?

 

David Grange  

My mission, I think I’ve mentioned it throughout. 

 

But my mission is to ignite people of their own ability to live their dream period. (laughter)

 

That’s my mission. That’s what … people right when, 

 

When they get a little bit of traction, with a little bit of focus, with a little bit of prioritize.

 

And then, accountability. It’s amazing seeing what happens 

 

When someone starts in on call one, and they’re a lost puppy who’s afraid to take risk. 

 

And by the end of it, there’s marathons and talking to their boss to have big conversations. 

 

And it’s like, that what I’ve seen happen. And it unlocks a beast within them, 

 

Their own best beast of what they can do, and it empowers them. 

 

And that ignites only, not only them, but their spouse, their friend, their colleagues, 

 

We all know people like that.

 

Richard Matthews  

Yeah, and it’s only of those things like when you do that, 

 

You’re actually getting someone to a higher level. 

 

Where they’re starting to perform, it makes everyone else around them uncomfortable. 

 

And they’re going to respond to one of two ways. They’re either going to 

 

Stop hanging out with you, or whatever, or they’re going to be challenged by that 

 

And change and improve themselves. You’re creating like a rising tide in that, in their life.

 

David Grange  

And that’s the point. And that’s why it’s not like you snap your finger, and they’re there. 

 

But they’ve developed skills and acquired tools to then navigate that 

 

And to be in tune with that. So as the people around them kind of respond 

 

To this person who is on fire. They know they’re more equipped to manage that even more.

 

Richard Matthews  

Absolutely. So I like that. What I’m talking about now is your tool belt, right? 

 

So every hero has their tool belt, Thor had his big magical hammer, 

 

Batman’s got his little, gadgets and gizmos and whatnot, 

 

Even your police officer has his bulletproof vest. So what I’m curious is, 

 

What are some of the tools that you use to really make your business life better? 

 

And are those you know, maybe it’s your scheduling tool, your calendar, whatever it is, 

 

That really helps you do what you do? Or maybe it’s some tools 

 

You use to help your clients get their work done, or to make changes? 

 

What are some of the big tools you use to make your adventure coaching business work?

 

David Grange  

Great point morning routine is huge.  I would say 99, if not 100% of the people 

 

I work with, first work on their morning routine. And it’s been said, 

 

You win the first hour of the day, you win the day. 

 

And so by people establishing a routine of exercise, of meditation of prayer, 

 

Of reading, journaling, whatever it may look like for you. 

 

But that’s a huge tool for me is morning routine.

 

And designing that, what that looks like is set your day for success. 

 

But I really like that and believe in that, you win the first hour of the day you win the day.

 

Richard Matthews  

So what are some of the things that you recommend for most people?

 

So I know, you mentioned some things that would be like specific to the individual, 

 

Is there something that you recommend everyone does every day regardless of 

 

 What type of person or what their beliefs are?

 

David Grange  

That’s interesting question for me because I really, that individual designs this,

 

I am trained to and help them identify their own best answers. 

 

So one of the core principles of my coaching is that people are naturally creative, 

 

Resourceful, and whole. So when they come to me, and they say, 

 

“Dave, what should I do to lose 10 pounds? In the next three months?”

 

The best answer for that is within them. Or when someone says, 

 

“How can I grow my fortune 500 company to …” 

 

I can’t step into that. That’s consulting, right? 

 

But coaching is bringing the best answers that they know and that are within them, 

 

And then holding them accountable to that. Does that make sense?

 

Richard Matthews  

It does. And I like that delineation to I’ve always wondered 

 

What people think consider the difference between coaching and consulting is. 

 

So you’re saying coaching is when you’re actually letting someone 

 

Figure out their own answers and holding them accountable to it. 

 

And consulting is when you’re actually coming in and 

 

Actually helping them do that thing. We’re making them do that thing or doing it for them.

 

David Grange  

Exactly. A consultant would be, because I have experienced in hospitality, 

 

Someone comes to me says, “How can I grow sales in hospitality?” And I say, 

 

“Well, here’s a seven-point plan. How I done it, my experience and the research I’ve done.” Boom! 

 

I’m a consultant. A coach says, well, let’s dive into this floor. 

 

Let’s try something out and really meet them where they are. 

 

And as I said, peel back those layers of within them, because each team is different. 

 

Each company is different. So yes, consultants are great in what they’re used for. 

 

Coaching what I’ve seen and experienced with people is that the answers come from the individual.

 

It’s their answer, not mine. So yeah, way more committed to their own ideas, 

 

Than they are mine. So I’m just trained in helping them identify their best ideas.

 

Richard Matthews  

My next question is about your own personal heroes. Right? Frodo had Gandalf 

 

Luke had Obi Wan. Robert Kiyosaki had his Rich Dad, who are some of your heroes? 

 

Your business heroes? Were they real life mentors, were they speakers or authors?

 

Were they peers who were just few years ahead of you? 

 

And how important were they to what you’ve accomplished so far in your coaching business?

 

David Grange  

I would say? Well, I think of in going into this, my wife, 

 

I would say, is definitely a hero of mine. In that, she is a graphic designer. 

 

And she has great ideas. And she took action on a couple of those. 

 

And she has lived her passion. And so that was very impactful for me of like, 

 

“Wow, look at what you’re doing.” … , I would not be where I am today. 

 

If it we’re not for my coach. So I’ve had a coach now for about seven months,

 

And couple coaches throughout my certification and everything and monumental difference. 

 

Monumental difference! I would not be where I am if I did not have a coach. 

 

Because they helped me realize what fulfills me. And the writing was so clear that,

 

Why are you not doing that? I was like, “Well, I don’t know.” 

 

Richard Matthews  

That was a really hard question, right?

 

David Grange  

Right. So my coach, my wife, you know, great … great podcast. 

 

I mean, there’s such a wealth of information now that really just dialing into that 

 

And taking notes, and really spending time for you discover 

 

Who you are and what you want to do. You don’t have to fit a mold, kind of thing. 

 

And there’s so many great people out there that exemplify that. You don’t have to fit a mold. 

 

Sometimes you want to. But you don’t have to. If it’s not the right one.

 

Richard Matthews  

And you’re allowed to change your mind too, was another big revelation for me. 

 

You don’t have to fit a mold. And you can change your mind later.

 

David Grange  

Absolutely. I mean, I was several years into my corporate life and 

 

And then, it quickly came to a point of this is not where I want to go with things. 

 

So something needs to change. And yes, it takes risk, and you have families to care for

 

 And bills to pay. But if you’re following your passions, 

 

I absolutely believe that they’ll make it work.

 

Richard Matthews  

Absolutely. So I want to bring home for our listeners a little bit 

 

And talk about last thing here is your guiding principles, right? 

 

What are the top one or two principles or actions you use regularly 

 

That contribute to your success and influence that you enjoy. 

 

Things that you do on a regular basis.  I know, you’ve mentioned a couple of things already,

 

Like your morning routine and writing your one priority thing. 

 

Do you have anything you want to add to the list? 

 

Or do you want to expand on some of those things or things that you do every day 

 

That really contribute to your success in your business? 

 

David Grange  

Principles. You know, I do think and maybe another way of saying it, 

 

But small and simple things can, are great things brought to pass, 

 

Kind of thing where, by small steps, it’s amazing what you can accomplish. 

 

If they’re in the right direction, towards your goals and dreams. 

 

So whatever that looks like to you, what, what will you do tonight 

 

To take one step towards your dream, one step towards your goal. 

 

So that to me is is a simple thing. Sometimes people they have their big lofty goals, 

 

But then, they go back to their normal routine. Right after saying it. 

 

It’s like, well, what changed? Nothing changed. You just told me your dream. 

 

But what what action Are we going to take with that? 

 

So that’s one principle of, by small simple things are great things brought to pass. 

 

And for me, I really, by divine design, the experiences that we have,

 

The people we meet, the jobs that we have, I believe are all part of a divine design. 

 

So learn from it grow from it. And when we’re living in harmony 

 

With our families and our core beliefs.

 

It’s easier to navigate and recognize right opportunities at the right time and the right place.

 

So those are like two principles, not necessarily tools, but principles.

 

Richard Matthews  

I really liked the one thing idea, and just like it can be really small. 

 

I remember a couple years ago, I wanted to start working on fitness a little bit more

 

And realizing that I wanted to do just some bodyweight exercises 

 

And was thinking to myself, I should get into doing push-ups. 

 

Because push-ups are a good overall thing. But I was like, I don’t want to, 

 

I knew that if I got down, I was like, “I’m going to do 50 push-ups today,” I would never do it. 

 

It would not be a thing. So it’s just like, today and for like, every day this week, 

 

I’m just going to do one push up, after lunch kind of thing.

 

And I know I could do more than that. But it wasn’t that wasn’t the point. 

 

The point was to just start a new habit of adding something. And then you get bored. 

 

You’re like, I’m bored with doing one pushup. So next week, I’m going to do ten. 

 

And then, six weeks in, now you’re doing 50 push-ups a day. Because you took one small step.

 

David Grange  

Yes, that’s exactly it. That small step. And that’s all it takes. One of my favorite tools. 

 

Maybe you could call it a principle. But in order to achieve something 

 

You’ve never achieved before, you need to do things you’ve never done before.

 

And that’s, I love that principle. I live by that principle. People tell me things. 

 

This is what I need to do, this what I do, but this is what I want. 

 

What are you going to do that you’ve never done for 

 

In order to achieve something you’ve never achieved before? And then boom! 

 

The creativity starts coming out. “Well, I’ve always done one push-up.” 

 

“What are you crazy? Do a ten.” They end it. So so that’s a huge principle –

 

Richard Matthews  

Goes for everything too, not just working out, 

 

But anything that you’re trying to get better at. Even if you’re talking about, 

 

Get out and do some adventuring. Maybe it’s just a walk around the neighborhood to start. 

 

But you’ll get bored, you want to go and have better adventures.

 

David Grange  

Totally. And that’s what I … too with the adventure coaching. I’m the fan. 

 

I love suffer fests. And so some of my close buddies are like, 

 

“Oh, man, like who can keep up with that,” because I love pushing the body. 

 

But as you just said, sometimes an adventure for someone is a walk through a park, 

 

And that’s beautiful. I want to meet them where they are, 

 

And then grow them to where they want to want to end up. 

 

Other people might want to run a marathon or to run an ultramarathon 

 

Or to bike across United States. Who knows?

 

But whatever your adventure looks like, take a step towards it.

 

Richard Matthews  

Awesome. So the last thing I do on this show, and you’re actually a result of this 

 

Is the Hero Challenge. Your challenge is pretty simple. 

 

And I said, Lisha Lisa Davidovits, actually invited you 

 

To come on the show via the Hero Challenge. So thank you for coming on. 

 

And your challenge is simple. It’s Do you have someone in your life or in your network? 

 

Who you think has a cool entrepreneurial story? Who are they? First names are fine, 

 

And why do you think they should come on the show?

 

David Grange  

Great. Well, biggest entrepreneurial spirit I know is my wife. She’s dynamite. 

 

I mean, she’s ideas are always flowing, why I love her story 

 

Is because she was working for companies and designs them. 

 

But she had these other ideas of wanting to do her own thing 

 

And be her own artist and not be told that it can be any color as long as it’s “pink and black”

 

She wanted to design her own, give her full, creative mind to it. 

 

And so she’s done that. And so she’s the first one that comes to my mind 

 

With with an entrepreneurial spirit.

 

Richard Matthews  

We’d love to have her on the show. I’ll have I’ll have Mark reach out afterwards, 

 

We can set something up, get her on the show, as well. 

 

And I don’t know if you have seen, we even make little challenge videos will send out 

 

But put together for – So last thing, where can people find you? 

 

If they are looking to get some adventure coaching, right? 

 

Where can people find David? And second to that? 

 

Who are the kind of people that should reach out? 

 

What kind of things should they be seeing in themselves that  

 

Would let them know they should reach out to you?

 

David Grange  

Great question. Thank you. My website is a great kind of platform 

 

To tap into my social media feeds or whatever. But https://www.livestellarco.com/. 

 

https://www.livestellarco.com/ and that’s my website. 

 

That’s where my retreats are listed, my social media and then about me.

 

And about who I work with and what I do the type of people to reach out – 

 

If you know you’re capable of more, or you’re stuck or just in a rut, or you’re living in good life, 

 

But you know, you’re capable of more, then you’re exactly who I want to work with. 

 

To help discover what that next level is what your biggest, brightest, most fulfilling life looks like.

 

That’s what I want to hear about and see what we can do together.

 

Richard Matthews  

Awesome. It’s https://www.livestellarco.com/ will get you to your page

 

And to see your retreats and your about page and your social media and everything. 

 

And I’m sure he can help you take your adventure and your business to the next level. 

 

So definitely if you’re looking for a life with more adventure, reach out to David, 

 

David, thank you so much for coming on today. Really appreciate it. It was fun chatting with you.

 

David Grange  

Yeah, you too. Thank you for the opportunity. 

 

Richard Matthews  

Have a great day.