Episode 090 – Dr. Wesley Fox

Wes Fox 0:00
Health and wellness is really hard to attain by yourself. No different than the reason why we have mentors and coaches is because they can guide us on the right pathway. And health is one of those which people are starting to realize now with the Coronavirus is, it’s probably the most important building block to any business is you got to have everyone in it healthy, or at least the big heads in it. The CEOs, they got to be healthy otherwise without them you can’t have a company that runs.

Richard Matthews 0:28
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Hello, and welcome back to The Hero Show. My name is Richard Matthews. And today, I have a special guest for you live on the line is Dr. West Fox. Are you there, Wes Fox?

Wes Fox 1:40
I’m here.

Richard Matthews 1:41
Awesome. Glad to have you here. So for those of you who don’t know who Dr. Fox is, he’s actually the doctor that I have been mentioning a couple of times in the last, I don’t know three or four months worth of episodes that we’ve put out. That I’ve been working with personally to help achieve peak performance in my life and in my business. So, I’m pretty excited to actually have him come on the show and chat a little bit about what it is that he does. So, Dr. Fox, to start off with, why don’t you tell us a little bit about who you are and what you’re known for today? What is your business like? What is it that you help people with?

Wes Fox 2:13
Sure. Yes, so I am a high performing performance expert. So I essentially take someone from point A, which could be a series of health problems, they don’t feel good, they don’t have energy, they’re tired, or they’re really sick. And then I take them to the other side of the spectrum, which is overall performance and well being. So, how I got into this is I used to have a brick and mortar practice where people would come in, and we would get in better and they’re like, “Hey, can you help my mom or my dad?” Like, “How do we do this?” And so essentially, what my wife did is we just closed up shop and essentially brought everything from our brick and mortar online. And so what we do for people is we help uncover the cause of any other health concerns. Anything that’s blocking performance. inhibiting their body from achieving ultimate vitality. And we do that through a proprietary step program where we take them through customized testing, and we figure out everything that is going on with a specific individual. And then we guide them through that to actually attain health and wellness because health and wellness is really hard to attain by yourself. No different than the reason why we have mentors and coaches is because they can guide us on the right pathway. And health is one of those which people are starting to realize now with the Coronavirus is, it’s probably the most important building block to any business is you got to have everyone in it healthy or at least the big heads in it like the CEOs, they gotta be healthy otherwise without them you can’t have a company that runs.

Richard Matthews 3:43
I can’t build wealth without health. So yes, that’s an interesting thing that you do and I’ve actually really seen a lot of benefits in my life since starting to go through this. I was really surprised by how in depth your testing was. And just all the stuff I’ve learned about myself because of that. So it’s really fascinating. What I’m curious about is how did you get started in business? We talked on our show about your origin story, right? Every hero has an origin story, when you started to realize that you were different. Maybe you had superpowers, and maybe you could use them to help other people. So how did you get started on this whole path of becoming an entrepreneur being a self made business person?

Wes Fox 4:23
So my wife says that the superhero she thinks I am is Captain America. I don’t know how she got that. But essentially, it started off with people closest to me getting sick, and it’s my wife. So I’ll just share a little bit about that. So what had happened to her was at the age of 12, she started experiencing debilitating migraines, to the point of where she had a curl up in a ball and it was like she was having a stroke, couldn’t feel anything, couldn’t say anything for hours. And so, right when I heard that I was like, I have my own kids right now. I can only imagine what that 12 year old at that time felt like, but that the biggest problem from there was she had no help. No doctor could figure out what was going on with her. The best thing that she got after she spent thousands of dollars was, I think you’re just dehydrated. That’s it. We don’t, or you can take this thousand dollar medication. And through that story, and hearing it from her, it kind of helped me to start focusing on the track of like, okay, there’s a lot of people that need help. And there’s a lot of people that don’t know why they are the way they are, why they have these health issues. And so through her, this is seven years in now she has no more migraines, we figured out exactly what was causing the problem. And now she’s set free, and we want to set people free from their own baggage or their own demons. So that way they can live and enjoy life. And we do that by uncovering the cause of their problems. And that’s how I got into the entrepreneurial aspect. I was being selfish, only focusing on people in my area when there are millions and millions of people around the world who need help. But they may not be able to have that doctor like me that can come and help them. Well, now I can help you from anywhere. And that’s where we brought everything online, did everything from the entrepreneurial aspect where someone can find me. I have people in Africa, Asia, I mean everywhere, and they’re able to achieve health and wellness now and they don’t have to rely on their doctors locally anymore.

Richard Matthews 6:28
Something that’s really cool. And it’s interesting that I don’t know what the term for it is, but telemedicine or virtual medicine like this is becoming more readily accepted. So even like four or five months ago, if you tell someone you were seeing a doctor, virtually, they’re like, “Oh, that’s weird.” But then, we get hit by a big virus. And now, I see services popping up where you can actually see doctors virtually.

Wes Fox 6:55
And what’s gonna happen is everything’s probably gonna move to this now. Most doctors are going to realize after this is that, “Hey, maybe we can do everything virtually.” The only reason why you need to go into a doctor is if they’re going to perform a surgery on you, we haven’t figured out how to do that virtually yet. Or, if they have to adjust, or massage you, like that’s where you need to go and do something. But otherwise everything else can be done from, right where you’re at.

Richard Matthews 7:21
And so, if you need a test or they need to check something on you and you actually need to have hands of a doctor on you, then you go see a doctor in person, but most of the time, it’s like my wife just had a virtual doctor’s visit and they were able to go through her symptoms and diagnose everything and get her prescription all from telemedicine stuff for. It’s fascinating to me that that’s the way that the world is moving. So, my next question for you has to do with your superpowers. We talk all the time, every superhero has their superpowers. It’s what you do or build or offer the world. It really helps solve problems for people and what I’ve been framing this question for guests lately has been like, look at all your skills, the things that you’re good at, the things that you really help people with. There’s probably one skill that energizes the rest that sort of makes you who you are. Your zone of genius, so to speak. What would you say that is for you that makes you able to do what you do?

Wes Fox 8:13
I would say is relentlessness mixed with – My wife calls me like a logistician with relentlessness. I will take something that someone presents to me. And I won’t stop until I figure out exactly what is happening. And it doesn’t have to come from me. It can come from other people I know. So, I will encompass a problem and I will continue to work on it in my sleep to the point until I actually figure out what this is going on. To my own detriment. My wife would say that I just don’t stop. I’m not the person that just “Hey, try this. Try this.” I will continue to analyze and analyze and analyze until we figure out why this is happening. And so she calls me a logistician. I’m a logic, that’s my magic power.

Richard Matthews 9:07
Your magic powers that you can work on the problem until you find a solution. That’s it. It’s interesting – I have not heard that answer before from anyone on the show. So, I’m curious, what does that like to do to you mentally as you’re working with patients like me and patients all over the spectrum? How do you keep your own sanity about you when you’re working on problems like that all the time?

Wes Fox 9:31
Well, so I always start with myself first. So I can’t help anyone unless I have my own good routines. So, I have my own morning adrenal mitochondrial cocktails. I have red light therapy, sauna therapy, I have to take care of myself mentally and physically, before I can handle the energy that comes from other people. And so the reason why I can have this relentlessness of figuring out the problem or the solution to a problem is because of what I’ve prepared my body to do. So, it’s my own self hygiene and my own self care routines that allows me to handle what you present to me and then allows me to figure out why this problem is happening.

Richard Matthews 10:12
So, when it comes to like talking about high performance, you are able to perform highly yourself. Why because you follow a lot of these regimens yourself to keep yourself at a high level. So, curious question just from personal experience before you started doing this, do you feel like you have higher performance and more capacity now than when you first got into some of this health stuff?

Wes Fox 10:41
Yes. So, there was a point where I used to struggle with panic attacks every day. I was a division one track and field athlete, and went to one of the best colleges in the world. And I thought health was like, “Hey, I ripped. I look good.” But then I got to the point where I barely had enough energy to make it through the day. And keep in mind this is when I was in my brick and mortar. I was unhealthy. I thought I was healthy. And then, I was having panic attacks every day. And so, I had a small window of time of how much I could actually work and get things done. And my level of success was only here. I couldn’t go any higher because my body wouldn’t let me. And so all these regimens and protocols and analysis that I put my clients through, I’ve already done myself, I’ve done 10 times over. I can go from I wake up every day, four or five o’clock in the morning and I go until nine o’clock at night, and I don’t have a dip in energy anymore. My body starts to shut down at seven o’clock to get ready for bed. But people look at my workload and they’re like, “How do you handle that?” And it’s like because I’ve built up good successful habits and routines and I’ve fixed the inside versus worried about the outside. Most people worry about the outside and never fix the inside.

Richard Matthews 11:55
So like on that note you mentioned like having a – You were physically fit. Like, if someone looked at you, you looked good, looked healthy.

Wes Fox 12:08
I had a six pack. I was 200 pounds doing CrossFit. I mean, if you looked at me, you would look past me, like that dude’s fine. But in reality, I was struggling significantly. I mean, I was drinking 4-5-6 cups of coffee a day just to make it to the end of the day, I would wake up and it would take me over an hour and a half just to get out of bed. And then I would get panic attacks where for like, anywhere from five to 30 minutes, I couldn’t control my thoughts. I was afraid of everything I had. And then I would go to sleep and I was just, I felt like I’m psychotic, almost like I just, I didn’t feel comfortable in my own skin. And it was very stressful. And I was like that for over a year, a panic attack almost every single day. And then I got to the point where this is – I can’t do this anymore. And that’s where I started going a step deeper and figuring out using my logic and analyzation. I just didn’t stop until I figured out what was wrong once I found it addressed it. I’ve never looked back. I’ve never had an issue again.

Richard Matthews 13:10
So, I’m curious how often do you find that because like I was in the same boat, not panic attacks but I mean, my issues were like if I was to go see a regular doctor and do the normal testing out or check all the boxes, they wouldn’t look over, you’re healthy 33 year old dude. And, looking at all this stuff, it’s like it’s on a negative trajectory. How often do you see that versus someone who is physically ill and sick and doesn’t look good versus someone who checks the boxes that meant, we sort of look at society as being healthy and fit.

Wes Fox 13:44
So how often do people check the box of being healthy and pretty much overlooked because they think they’re healthy?

Richard Matthews 13:50
Yeah.

Wes Fox 13:53
I would say probably, 60%. 60% of my clients are most of the time that’s how they are. Well, it comes from their definition of health that they were taught was that as long as they look good, so if they’re not overweight, or they’re physically fit, or they have energy throughout the day, or they look, look physically good too, then they’re healthy. So, what they were taught was wrong. They were taught that if they look and feel good, that means they’re healthy. So they don’t need to do anything. But how often do I run into it quite frequently. And those people are actually the worst. People who fall into that category. That’s the person that’s less likely to take action to do anything because like, “I’m okay, no different than me.” That’s how I was, guess what I didn’t do. I didn’t take action because I’m like, dude, I’m ripped. I look good. How can there be a problem with me? And then eventually there was a problem.

Richard Matthews 14:50
So, for people who are listening, what is a better definition of health so they can look at themselves to actually see a better picture and know whether or not they should be doing something.

Wes Fox 15:04
Right. So I went back. I really liked Tony Robbins. And I did a seminar with him a long time ago. And the biggest takeaway that I took was that wherever your focus goes, your flow goes and your energy goes. So the first question I always ask any of my clients and I have them ask themselves, how much focus do you put on your health? When’s the last time you asked yourself? Am I healthy? And they’re like, “I don’t know.” Last –

Richard Matthews 15:28
Never.

Wes Fox 15:29
And we’ve been taught that we need to brush our teeth. We need to go to the dentist every six months, and brush your teeth religiously. We wake up, we go to bath. We do all these things religiously. But we’ve actually never been taught to check in our health, but we look at our business. We want to make sure our business is doing good. Check the numbers. We do that, you know, weekly or every day. And I always ask people, “Well then why do you expect to even be healthy, if you’re not checking in on it like you doing your business or your bank account, then don’t expect that when a health issue comes to be healthy because you never looked at it. So now, another way that they need to start looking at it is the new definition of health is that your body is functioning at 100%. Because I can have a person that’s slightly overweight, not have a six pack, but functionality, they’re functioning at, you know, as close to 100% is possible. But then I can have a person who’s a six pack completely rep does CrossFit, or does the gym routines all the time, and they’re on the verge of having a heart attack in the next couple of years? And they don’t even know about it. So it’s all about you functioning at 100%? And then the next question is, how do you know?

Richard Matthews 16:36
Yeah, how do you know whether or not you’re functioning at 100%? Can you? Is that something you can answer? Or does that get into get right into the testing and the protocols that you do?

Wes Fox 16:43
You can’t know. There’s no way to know unless you do testing. My biggest philosophy is don’t guess, always test no matter what. you can look at anything in this world in some form or fashion. Someone tested that to make sure it worked. Could be from advertising to marketing. There are testing, they don’t want to guess. Same thing with health. Health, you always want to test and never guess. And so that is the only way to know. You could look good and feel good. No different than yourself. You know, overall, you felt pretty good. And a lot of the entrepreneurs that I work with the same thing, I feel good. No, it’s not that you feel good, it’s that you’ve developed good habits, that doesn’t mean that you feel good, the only way to know is to actually open up the hood of that car, look at the engine that’s running in there and make sure. And then once you have that validation, then you know that you were doing the right thing.

Richard Matthews 17:32
And it’s really interesting too, because like when we finished the testing for me, and realize that like I do feel good or thought I felt good. And you realize that I’ve actually some of the things that I have learned to live with aren’t actually feeling good. They’re like low performance things, right? Everything from not being able to fall asleep well at night. They’re, that’s not just me, that’s actually a health issue. And things like having cold fingers and cold toes all the time. That’s not actually like that’s, that’s a sign of something. That’s not, I didn’t know any of that.

Wes Fox 18:02
Normal, they call that normal aging. That’s what they say your normal.

Richard Matthews 18:06
Yeah.

Wes Fox 18:06
So normal 30 or 40 year olds. It’s like, Why the heck do I want to be normal? Like, I don’t want to be compared to the average American of what they should be experiencing. I don’t want to be the 60 year old in a wheelchair because that’s normal. I want to be the 60 year old who’s ripped playing tennis and has energy for days and still, you know.

Richard Matthews 18:26
Swimming the English channel like, what’s his name? The guy, the juicer stuff.

Wes Fox 18:30
–

Richard Matthews 18:33
– swimming the English Channel at 90.

Wes Fox 18:35
That dude has routine. He’s healthy. He checked in himself. And I mean, he was pulling boats at the age of 70 or 80 behind him as he was swimming. And it’s like, you put another 70 year old in there in the water to do that. They’d be drowning. They’d be trying to just stay above water. And this dude’s pulling like 15 boats.

Richard Matthews 18:54
So, the point is that you’ll know a lot of the things that you may or may not be dealing with, that you consider normal. Like, normal aging process or just normal life or just part of who you are may actually be signs of health issues. That if you actually do the testing, you’ll know. So on that note, will you describe a little bit of the types of testing that you do with your clients and why they’re important.

Wes Fox 19:20
So the first one we do is a genetic testing reason is because, with the whole virus thing that’s happening right now they’re talking about, like, maybe there’s genetic markers or things that are happening. Like maybe someone carries a risk marker to be more affected by it. But your genetics play a role in the expression of your life. So you have a whole list of DNA markers that makes Richard, right. And then the next step up from that is epigenetics, which is okay, now that we know Richard has this DNA, which ones is he expressing is expressing the good ones or the bad ones. And then from there, we can essentially start pulling levers and turning genes on and off that we want to have happened for you to be healthy. And so when we look at your genetics, we will know everything about you, will know how you respond to things, who you are, how you work out what you need to eat, any risks, we need to be concerned of any DNA markers that are bad that are turned on. And then we turn them off the epigenetics. So that’s one testing that goes right down to the molecular DNA level of who you are, this is what we can do to give us a blueprint of you. Okay? that blueprint isn’t live though, that it’s not like the blood work that we do. The blood work we do is it’s a cellular bloodwork, we look at the foundational building blocks of your body, which is your cells, your heart, your lungs, your tissues, your skin, your nose, your lips, everything is made out of cells. And so we analyze it at this level, which is your cells. Most physicians analyze it up here which is just bloodwork or even higher, they just like how are you feeling? Let’s just analyze your symptoms and then symptomatic, not go any further. And so we’re able to look inside each and every one. Have those individual cells see the framework to see, do we even have a good solid foundation? And if no, then yeah, of course, you’re gonna have all these health issues up there. It’s broken down here at the bottom. So we want to fix it from the bottom up like a house, they always start with a foundation. They don’t start building the roof. And then they’re like, Oh, crap, we got to build the foundation in there. Now they start with the foundation and work their way up. We’ve been taught to start from the roof, which is the symptoms that drip down right when it rains. And then we start trying to dig further, but we never actually dig down to the foundation level. And that’s why so many Americans right now are sick. They never know, they never get to the root cause. And that’s what our testing does, allows us to figure out that cause.

Richard Matthews 21:41
It was when we did the testing myself, it was really really fascinating to get the results back on for a couple of reasons. One of them was like for the blood testing and cellular over testing, I was like, it’s in my head. It was like, I feel like I’m finding out the day I’m gonna die. And I remember thinking that I was like, it’s such a weird feeling. But at the same time, once you actually get the results you realize, okay, so like you have this issue or that issue or other things, but they have solutions.

Wes Fox 22:10
Yes.

Richard Matthews 22:12
It could have been the way you were gonna die if you just let yourself go for the next 30 years, but you can actually improve things. Knowledge is power, you can change the trajectory of your life. And the DNA testing was super in depth. I was blown away, I was expecting to find out your parents are from North Africa kind of thing. That was the end of it. But it was like all the way down to the level of, your body doesn’t process vitamin D the way normal people do or your body doesn’t have a normal hunger response, which is something like I have known my whole life but never really like, knew it if that makes sense. So, I’ve always struggled with making sure I ate enough food because I don’t feel hungry like a normal person does.

Wes Fox 22:55
We got to keep in mind though, we’ve been taught that there should just be one size fits all for everything, but then you ask the question like, why can’t Johnny eat that food but I can eat it, I’m fine, we’re different. We’re all different. So, not every single person on the planet can do a paleo diet. That doesn’t make any sense. That means that that’s not accounting for the differentiation between you and I. No wonder we wonder why diets fail for so many people. It’s because it’s not specific enough. When you get down, then it gets specific to you versus, “Oh, you know, Dr. So and So said, I should do this, because that’s what he said.” No, we gotta we got to dig deeper.

Richard Matthews 23:37
And I like one of the things that was in the DNA report, which was fascinating and directly related to the diet was my genetic markers for my response to gluten. And it was, it popped up and it’s like, I don’t have a gluten intolerance. I don’t have those DNA markers. So, when my wife and I, several years ago, went on a gluten-free diet. It had a huge impact on her. Didn’t impact me at all. It didn’t hurt me, but it didn’t make any positive impacts.

Wes Fox 24:05
I’m the same way, like I can eat gluten, I’ll be fine. And I haven’t had any of those health issues. But, if someone does carry that marker, then of course they’re gonna have gluten issues. But why? Why do you and I need to be so super strict about it? If I don’t even carry those markers to be affected? People have been eating gluten for years, and they’ve been fine. But you’ll get people to like, Oh, no, easy only way to go. And it’s like, for some people, yes. But you can’t say that gluten affects everyone the same way. Otherwise, you’re falling into that same trap, which is one size fits all and everyone’s the same. We’re all different.

Richard Matthews 24:40
Absolutely. So I move on a little bit and ask you about the flip side of your superpower which is your fatal flaw, right? So every superhero has their fatal flaw, Superman has Kryptonite that tears him down. In this context, what I like to talk about is something that you think has held you back from having more success in the space that you’re in and something that you’ve actively worked on. And how have you worked on it? So other people who might struggle with something similar, can learn a bit from you.

Wes Fox 25:08
Control or delegation. Kryptonite as far as wanting my hand to be on everything on the pulse all the time, and any successful business person would know that you got to let go. The best example I’ve seen is that if you want to get to the top of the building, you put a ladder on the outside of it right? And climb up one step. And then you let go of the steps below to some someone else climb up the next step and you let go. I tend not to want to delegate, which essentially means if I don’t delegate, I can’t grow because I need to be doing everything. And if I’m doing everything, then I’m not going to grow big enough. If I’m trying to control everything, I’m not going to grow big. And so that used to be that was what was holding me back from everything. Even in the office. You have to let go and let other people do tasks so you can continue to grow and focus on the big picture, which is getting to the top of the building. And I didn’t see the top of the building. I focused on the bottom and stayed there. I didn’t climb.

Richard Matthews 26:13
I can feel you there because my business was like that for nine years. And I wore all the hats and did all the things because I was convinced that I was the only person who could do them. And it wasn’t until I had someone in one of my mastermind groups, sort of kick me in the ass and be like, your own bottleneck, you need to stop. Hire someone like that’s your goal for this meeting. And next is you need to hire someone. And I was like, I don’t want to do that. And so I’m like, I don’t think I can afford that. I don’t want to do it, and they’re not gonna do the work as good as I am. And like, I remember making that decision and hiring that person will probably listen to this recording helping us one of my best people, best decisions I’ve ever made in my life. So, if you’re listening, thank you for being there. But anyways, it changed my business right? You know, now we’ve got three people on staff now. And it’s a huge, huge growth step to actually be able to step out and delegate and have other people, and then you find out that you work better than you anyway. So why are you holding on?

Wes Fox 27:13
I mean, I tell people, I think that’s probably a lot like at least entrepreneurs who are trying to grow their business. I always feel like that’s a lot of the issues that hold people back is that like, the control and delegation, which is the difference between like, an Amazon, you know, Jeff Bezos isn’t sitting there. I need to know, he’s just sitting there ranking in the money. You know, he’s got all the other people moving. But you and I, when you said, small business, it’s like your baby, right? And you always want to control it and never let go. It’s like, but the moment you let go, it actually turns into a human being and it grows and gets used and you get a teenager and then they get you. Yeah, if I would have learned that earlier on. I mean, shoot, I wish I would have shot from, four fingers to five to six to seven a lot quicker for sure.

Richard Matthews 27:59
Absolutely. So, the next question has to do with your common enemy. And this one actually, I think might be an interesting discussion. Because what I’m looking for is, if you had a magic wand and every client who came to you and you could magically remove one sort of mindset that you think is holding all of your clients back something you regularly beat your head against the wall, you have to tell your clients over and over and over again. What would that thing be? Like a common enemy, your clients all sort of struggle with in common?

Wes Fox 28:29
Time.

Richard Matthews 28:32
What do you mean by that?

Wes Fox 28:35
They want everything now. So, they struggle with, if we’re talking about my clients, they struggle with. “Well, why can’t this be fixed tomorrow? Why do I have to wait six months to a year to get better?” And my answer to them every single time is, “Well, John, you’ve been sick for 20 years. I should have at least 20 years to fix your health problem. Not two days or one week” The biggest problem with every client is like any American, no matter what, they want it now and that’s not how health works. It took you days and weeks and years to establish your problem. It’s going to take you – not the same amount of time, but it’s going to take you some time to get over these problems. So, I always say health is a marathon not a sprint.

Richard Matthews 29:27
And it’s interesting ’cause I think part of that comes back to the health establishments focus on symptomatic treatment right. You have a headache, you take Tylenol, 45 minutes later your headaches are gone. Not the reason for the headache, but you can’t feel it anymore.

Wes Fox 29:41
Imagine – break those habits because they want that magic pill. They want time in a magic pill. they want it essentially fixed right away. And then, they’re done and it’s like but no different than in a business like time. You need time to build a proper business for it to automate and grow. Same thing with health like you had these issues for years. Take some time to fix it.

Richard Matthews 30:03
And I remember when you and I first started, that was one of the first things that you started talking with me about was the amount of time it was going to take. And it was like, I know what my health goals are, and you’re like, “We’ll probably get to those health goals, like four or five months in.” Because we got to start with the foundational stuff. And, we had phase one, and we just started phase two and that kind of stuff. And it’s like, we got to work on, we got to get the foundation right, before we can start working on the stuff that people might be interested in and seeing the results.

Wes Fox 30:32
I mean, but keep in mind, though, like, even since we’ve been together, you’ve already seen some changes, and we –

Richard Matthews 30:38
Absolutely.

Wes Fox 30:39
That’s why it’s critical. It’s not that you’re not going to see changes, it’s that I don’t want to give you a false hope, like a doctor would say, “Yeah, this should fix you in a couple days.” I don’t want to do that. I don’t want to be a false hope. I want to be realistic and just say, “This is going to take time.” But yeah, I mean, I’ve had people go into full resolution, two months, one month, three months, but I’d rather be just – and say, “No, it’s going to take a couple more months,” versus I say, “Yeah, in a month you’re gonna get better.” And then it’s like eight months down the road, but then they quit after a month, right? That’s not the – I want to make sure that they get there at the right time. And that’s why I say, “It’s not a marathon, or it’s a marathon. It’s not a sprint.”

Richard Matthews 31:17
And I think one of the things that’s interesting, too, about sort of like your programming, what we’ve been doing is that a lot of what you’re doing with people is like, with me, at least, you have routines that you’re having to start. It’s like a supplement routine or routine for breathing or routine for sleep or other things. And you’re forcing me to build better habits. And those habits aren’t going to stay if we don’t have them over time. And so that’s where I see a lot of benefits to that. Which I think it’s a unique approach. Because, I’ve seen and worked with a lot of doctors with myself and family members over the years and it’s very uncommon to have to work with a doctor who’s like, “Hey, we’re actually going to work online.” Your daily routines and the things that you’re doing to have a healthy lifestyle, not just, we’ll fix your headache, or we’ll fix your migraines, we’ll fix your cancer or whatever it is.

Wes Fox 32:08
Well, I mean look at what Dean Graziosi and all those, Tony Robbins, they’ll say, habits and routines, right. And, that’s what people – and health, I call you all the time. No doctor is going to take the time to do that. You know why I do that? Not because I want to talk to you. I’m kidding. But I’m building a habit in you. And habits take what people used to think 21 days now. It’s like 90 days or whatever. If I can build you the right set of routines, then you’re going to be back in my door a year or two or three years from now, because I was just another quick fix. But if I could set you up for success and build proper habits that you’ll never stop, and you’re going to be the dude who starts teaching other people like, “Hey, you should do this. This is what I’ve learned. This is what I continue to do.” And then it just becomes a habit and you keep going.

Richard Matthews 32:58
Absolutely. It’s a different approach, a different model. One that I’ve appreciated a lot and we’ve only been working together for a couple months. So, my next question for you is the flip side of that. So, if your common enemy is the thing that you fight against, then your driving force is the thing you fight for, right? So we say on the show, it’s just like Spider Man fights to save New York or Batman fights to save Gotham, or Google fights to index and categorize all the world’s information. What is it that you guys fight for with your practice?

Wes Fox 33:25
I’m fighting for the person in front of me, because they don’t realize how fragile life is; they don’t realize how important their health is. And I’m fighting for them to realize that because we’re only given one chance on this earth, right? We’re gonna have another chance when we pass. I don’t want you to take advantage of it ’cause you think that you’re going to be here tomorrow. I want to make you realize that your health is your number one thing and I want you to realize that it is fragile. And guess what? I didn’t even have to do it. This time Coronavirus is doing it for everyone. The virus out there is making people realize and scared for their health. And it’s like, if you would just realize and accept that your health is the number one thing, and it’s fragile. It’s like that little baby you hold super fragile, but if you just care for it and love on it every single day, and make it a priority in your life, you’ll always be healthy and you won’t have to worry about anything.

Richard Matthews 34:22
Absolutely. So just in light of that. Can you talk for a minute about how your body is designed to deal with viruses?

Wes Fox 34:36
As far as like, what do you –

Richard Matthews 34:41
Like if you’re healthy? How a healthy person gets a virus, like the cold or the flu or, God forbid that the Coronavirus route would be healthy, like someone who’s performing at 100%. How would their body handle a virus?

Wes Fox 34:55
They probably wouldn’t even know they had it number one, but number two, their body would seek it out. Like, if you get infected, it doesn’t matter if it’s COVID, or regular virus, your immune system will essentially turn on and activate and search for that, and to address that problem, but what happens to most people is their immune system in their body doesn’t even do that. It doesn’t even work. And when it gets to a capacity when something like COVID comes in, and most of us already have a compromised immune system, we can handle a flow of flu here and there. But when something this big comes in, it’s a big it’s a different story. And so someone who’s a high performing individual, when their body’s functioning at 100% it’s immediate their body sends out all those signals and says, “Hey, we got an intruder. We got to go now,” versus someone else who’s not healthy. It’s like waking up “Oh, where we go, where is the intruder? I don’t know where it’s at.” And then, they start freaking out. They tell their friends, like where do we go, I don’t know. And their whole body freaks out, shuts down, and it takes some days or weeks to get over something or they’re always constantly getting sick or they’re on the other side. They never get sick because their immune systems just in overdrive do not know nonstop and then as they get older just tanks and then it stops and then they get massively ill so when a proper immune system is functioning it’s instantaneous. They know where the problem is. They know what’s going on, and then they fix it. Anything else outside of that someone who’s sick or not healthy? It doesn’t do that. It’s a lot slower. So, for me to take 10 seconds to get there versus one second that’s the matter of sometimes life or death.

Richard Matthews 36:35
So, could you make a comparison like we’ve been talking a lot about in the whole Coronavirus, panic about the hospital surge capacity. And, if you were talking about the virus, a big strong virus comes in and you have a healthy immune system, it’s gonna have all the capacity it needs to deal with the virus. Whereas someone who’s already working if their immune system is already at capacity, if their hospital systems are already filled up, all the beds are gone, and they get hit with a virus. It overloads the system. There’s no there’s not another bed for this virus to go in and get work done. Your body can’t handle it. It’s done.

Wes Fox 37:09
Is it always life or death for people? No. As we get older, is it? Yes. And so it doesn’t make sense to people when we’re young in our 30s and 20s and 40s. But then ask anyone who’s in their 50s or 60s, they’re more concerned about catching things and worried about things. Because they didn’t take the time necessary to fix, you know, whether it’s your immune system or your health. They haven’t put in the effort to attain proper health and so I’m not scared of the Coronavirus. People shouldn’t be scared of any virus. It doesn’t matter. If you’ve done the due diligence to be healthy. Then, like you said, your hospital Bay is open and it’s ready to take on whatever it needs.

Richard Matthews 37:48
So this is an interesting question, you mentioned the age groups, right? So, I would imagine not all of our audience is like my age or your age and younger. It probably spans the spectrum of age groups, if someone is in their 40s, or 50s, or 60s, is it too late for them to start working on their health and get to a place where they have peak fitness and that kind of stuff?

Wes Fox 38:08
No different than they always tell smokers, like the best day to start, stop smoking is today, the best way to start taking care of your health is today, whether you’re 40 or 50, you still have the opportunity to reap benefits. Now, you may be chronically ill, and your 60s and 70s. And it’s gonna be a lot harder, but any opportunity to attain health, I will take it so at 40, 50 or 60. There’s no such thing as too late. It’s just your body’s, it’s your body’s very powerful. And it can reverse itself to the point of where you wouldn’t even know you ever have ever had any issues. But there is a thing called a limitation of matter which, when your body does get to a certain point, because you waited too long. It might be really, really hard to turn that one around. But otherwise 99% of people out there right now they can turn their health around instantly. And all it does, most of the time we were talking about is changing habits and changing things that you’re doing on a daily basis. Habits routines, checking in on yourself actually prioritizing your health, because there’s never – I just got off the phone with another podcaster. And there’s never going to be one side. There’s never going to be a diet that’s going to fix you. Not going to work like that. There’s not going to be a miraculous fruit or vegetable that you can eat every day. And it’s going to miraculously change your health. It might change a couple things, but it’s not going to just be the cure. It’s exactly what you said, habits, routines, and actually knowing what’s happening versus guessing.

Richard Matthews 39:37
And it’s interesting to like you mentioned. We started, I’ve already started seeing results and it’s like, one of the things that I struggled with a lot was like falling asleep, and just getting some routines in place. It’s like, Hey, I sleep better now than I did before despite some of the current therapies. We’re growing and are impacting that. But, you can see results really quickly. And then, you see benefits from that really quickly, as well. And it’s like you can be on a negative trajectory, and you can immediately turn the trajectory positive, it might take you a while to start getting to like really positive. We’ve heard a lot from Dr. Bricks lately about logarithmic curves? You can have a nice positive curve, it takes a long time on the slow, but eventually, you’ll start to see a lot of uptick in your health.

Wes Fox 40:27
I mean, it’s no different than you said, the negative direction, right. So most people don’t know that they’re going in that direction. It’s not until they hit that.

Richard Matthews 40:35
Is it because like, on those logarithmic curves? It’s for the first 40 years, it’s very slow, right? And then it drops off a cliff.

Wes Fox 40:42
Then they’re like, I just woke up and it was completely different. It’s like, you didn’t see you were already going down that way. But today was the day your body was finally like, “Hey, this is it. We’re at the bottom.” It’s no different than even you saying like just the littlest change for sleep. People put sleep as like, “Oh, that’s nothing.” Like, that’s not even a big deal. And that is the biggest deal. Sleep is actually the most important thing you need out of anything. But people just say, “Oh, I can work all day, sleep four hours.” And you know they act all big and bad about it. You’re saying that now, but sleep is the – I always prescribe sleep over anything if someone can’t sleep. Oh man. Good luck getting healthy. It’s gonna take some time for sure. You gotta sleep.

Richard Matthews 41:23
Absolutely. So I want to talk a little bit about some practical things right so we call this your hero’s tool belt. Maybe you got a big magical hammer like Thor or bulletproof vest like your police officer? What are some tools that you use in your business that you think you couldn’t you absolutely couldn’t do what you do for your clients or for yourself or to manage your clients or anything, you know, just today to make you do what you do with your clients.

Wes Fox 41:48
So not health wise, just tools I use.

Richard Matthews 41:52
And they could be health tools, right whatever like tools for diagnostics or tools for managing your clients or whatever it is that you know just makes your business go round.

Wes Fox 42:00
So tools would be, what we’re on right now Zoom. That’s my big tool that I use to actually see all my clients facetime. Other tools are obviously utilizing – for websites and just branding and getting people out there so someone can actually see my face and see my family online. Other tools I use this little ring right here to track me every day. So, it’s a biometric device where it tracks my heart rate, my sleep, my body temperature, respiration rate, everything. Because I want to know, we always talk about knowing in this podcast, I want to know if I’m doing the right thing. So, that’s how I track my health. As far as my clients, it’s the testing. The testing is one of those things where it just opens up Pandora’s box and it’s like, “Hey, Richard, by the way, you’re gonna die tomorrow.” No, not really, but you know, opens up. It opens up a box of like, “Hey, one form or fashion you were gonna have to open this box, whether it was on your deathbed” or whether it was, five years from now the box would be open to matter what. And it’s just those tools, those tests allow me to do that. And then, just automation brings other people on all the team members now that I have working with me, that allows me to provide better care to you and clients, because I can spend more focused time on what I love, which is, I love talking to people. I love my family the most. But I love actually interacting with humans, because I’m a community person and family centered. And that’s the one thing that we’re missing right now is community and communication. And that’s why you’ve seen it like you and I, like we spend, we get to know each other, we get to know our families I get because I don’t want, I don’t want to be the white coat. I don’t want to be like “Hey, Doc.” like, I can never talk to you because, Doctor, now I want to be your friend. I want to walk with you on this journey. And that’s my biggest tool is I walk with you. I take this journey with you so that way we get to experience life together and experience these new health goals being accomplished and that’s what gets me through the day.

Richard Matthews 44:01
Absolutely, that’s really cool and I’ve noticed that a lot about how you interact with me and how you interact with you know. We got the opportunity because we traveled to come to you and your family and have dinner together and take our kids to the park and whatnot. And that’s very different than most of the doctor patient relationships that most people have right because the doctor patient relationship and a lot of times you can see it there’s like an arrogance in the space like “Hey, I have letters behind my name that you don’t have.” So we have to have this power differential in our relationship in order for you to respect me.

Wes Fox 44:34
Again, and healing because you see that he’s here and then you’re here there’s nothing in between to make you guys stick together and part of the healing is me to you, that connection. And making you realize I’m just a person like I’m no degree or license is gonna make me a better person than you just, like Tony Robbins or whoever they’re no better than you are. There’s still people you just don’t know about that level, but I’m sure there’s people that do and they communicate at your level. Like, that’s how health needs to be. Like your doctor if you’re not at that level with them. You’re gonna have a hard time getting healthy, because that’s part of health is that communication aspect.

Richard Matthews 45:12
And I think this just like personally, for me, I’m not sure how common it is with your clients, but I tend to be pretty introspective on this stuff, because we have that level of relationship. When you like, “Hey, when you prescribe therapy.” And I’m like, I have to do this because I don’t want to disappoint Dr. Fox either. Right? Like, we have a you know, it’s like a friendship like you say to your friend, I’m gonna be there at six o’clock, you’re gonna show up at six o’clock because you respect the relationship. You respect what you’re doing. And so, if you’re, like, “Hey, we’re going to, we’re going to do this therapy over the next three weeks, and you’re like, it’s not gonna be fun, and I’m not gonna like it.” And you know, if it was just some doctor in a white coat that prescribed it to me, and I’m never gonna see him again. And maybe he’s gonna check up in three weeks. I’m not gonna do it and I wouldn’t feel bad if I lied to him.

Wes Fox 45:59
Once again. I can also get a meme from me of like, I’m gonna send you a funny picture of probably what you’re experiencing. We got to make this fun, life is supposed to be fun. It’s supposed to be interesting. And we’re supposed to be friends. There should never be that, if there’s someone who’s superior over you. There’s something wrong with that, besides my wife, we think she’s wearing the pants to everything, but –

Richard Matthews 46:21
– awesome.

Wes Fox 46:22
We’re on an equal playing field. And once you realize that, at least in the health space, that’s when you get like major transformations. I mean, I get people all the time. They spend 10s 20 thousands of dollars with all these other doctors, like I didn’t get any better. Like, what would you do? Exactly what you just said, the doctor checked in every couple of weeks or every month or like come back in 3-5-6 weeks, and then they work with me and then a couple weeks later, they’re better. But I’m investing a lot of time into them because I want to know them. I want to know their family. I want to know who they are or another husband, because if I know that then you’ll know that I’m with you.

Richard Matthews 46:56
Absolutely. So I want to talk a little about your own personal heroes. Right. They’re just like Frodo had Gandalf for Luke at Obi Wan Kenobi or Robert Kiyosaki had his Rich Dad. Who were some of your heroes? Were they real life mentors, speakers, authors? Peers who were a couple of years ahead of you? And how important were they to what you’ve accomplished so far in your practice and the results you get for your clients?

Wes Fox 47:17
I would say my mentor hero I guess, even though I’ve never met him personally yet, probably would be Tony Robbins. Just because a long time ago, I went to a seminar because I was struggling with life and just didn’t know what I wanted anymore. Didn’t know my purpose, my meaning, or my vision. Pretty much got to the point of being hopeless. And as corny as it sounds, I went to one of his seminars for a four or five day long seminar, and it was just everything I needed. It was just realizing that “Hey, I’m a badass.” Like, I know I can be great. There is greatness in me and just making me change like who I – like the person I thought I was. I wasn’t. It made me think and realize the person I really am. And then, all the success started from there. The moment I went to that is the moment I became successful. Everything before that was not successful. So, I would say that was probably my biggest influence. I’ve had a lot of mentors here and there, you know, Nick, Alec five day weekend, a bunch of other people. But as far as the biggest impact that we’re having I’d noticed the biggest shift was that moment when I got back from that seminar, and I said, no. I said, no more.

Richard Matthews 48:28
So on this sort of vein of thinking, have you had any mentors in the health space that have helped educate you on sort of what you know, and the methodology that you use? Or is a lot of this sort of stuff that you’ve innovated yourself?

Wes Fox 48:43
I’ve had mentors from overseas, I could say names, but you wouldn’t really know. I’ve had close friends that have taught me how to go virtual. So I’ve had many different doctors that have helped me piece things together. I’ve learned protocols and just new things from other doctors because I don’t want to be the guy that says he knows it all because I don’t. And so, I’m always seeking wisdom from other people just like people are seeking wisdom for me. And I’ve had a lot through the health space and through the entrepreneurial space.

Richard Matthews 49:14
It’s really cool. So bring home for our listeners a little bit and talk about guiding principles. So top one or two principles or actions that you put in place every day that you think impact the success that you have had in your business. Maybe something that you wish you’d known when you first started out.

Wes Fox 49:33
Get uncomfortable. My biggest principle. Try something new and get uncomfortable. I tried to well and also just got up moving. I always drew like the circle where comfort was and then uncomfortable was there at the moment I got into those uncomfortable zones. I know, I’m gonna grow. The moment I just take action, just take a step. I’m gonna grow. Those are my two principles. Take a step. Get uncomfortable, or as what I learned from Tony Robbins massive action. So, that’s how I live my life every day. I take the step to massive action. And I get uncomfortable.

Richard Matthews 50:10
Absolutely. And I actually really like that whole idea of, you know, taking action to do something, right? Because it takes the focus off of me to accomplish the thing, too. I just have to take this step, right. And a lot of people they look at, what is the classic illustration of like, I have to eat the elephant. How can you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. And it’s that idea of like, you just have to take a step and you’ll get there. If you just put a little bit of effort in today. You know, I’m a little bit more effort in tomorrow, a bit more effort in the next day, eventually, you have new habits, you have new things, it snowballs.

Wes Fox 50:43
That used to bother me so much because I wanted to finish it now. And I just realized I grew faster. And you just said what I talked about with my clients. You said little steps every day. And that’s what I had to teach myself was I just got to do one thing, whatever that goal is. If I can do one or two things towards it, even if they’re tiny, man, that’s going to add up after a while because the compound effect is pretty cool. And the more I keep continuing to do that, no different than someone gave me a, Hey, if you compound a penny every day, after so many days, it equals a million dollars. It’s like, one penny than another penny for penny. It’s like, it’s the same thing. Just one.

Richard Matthews 51:20
– days. In case you’re wondering.

Wes Fox 51:22
There you go. But if you would explain that, to me, how many days does it take for pennies on a million dollars? I probably would have thought like a year, but I knew they were tricking me. And I was like, Oh, yeah, 28 days like, but that’s the same thing with like, if people just take a couple steps every day, they’re gonna look back and like, “How did I get all the way over here? That’s amazing.”

Richard Matthews 51:41
I can remember specifically, one of the days where I decided in my business that I was going to start changing some things and putting processes in place and making progress like small progress every day. And my business is four times the size it was back then and it took one 10th the amount of time to get from, where it was there, to where it is now.

Wes Fox 52:06
That’s like the reverse. It’s like a reverse effect, though, because you wouldn’t think like that though. Most people would think I gotta take massive action every day until it gets done this week. But you accomplish it faster than you would have ever done just by taking baby steps.

Richard Matthews 52:19
So, what’s crazy to me is like, before that point in my life, I was working 12 to 18 hours a day. And I was, I made it here. And when I started working like 2-3-4 hours a day and taking just making sure I got something accomplished every day. My business grew here in like, two years instead of, it took me 10 years to get here and then two years to get here.

Wes Fox 52:49
That’s an American thing though. We’re always taught to work more, work harder, work longer means better success. And that’s what I will learn from Nik Halik, 5 five day weekend. You should only work two days. Well, another mentor taught me like, technically you should maximum you should work days, technically four hours, you can’t really do much more than that effectively. And then, always have, Friday, Saturday, Sunday off or as Nik would say, work Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then have the rest of the weekend off. Like you don’t need to work Monday through Sunday, Monday through Friday.

Richard Matthews 53:20
I am learning that. And I’ve been actively trying to build my business that direction. And you know, I’m down to four hours a day, four to five days a week, most of the time, and my business is growing and doing well. And like, friggin’ love that. But you know, you wouldn’t think that like you don’t, it doesn’t seem like that’s the way it should work. And one of the common themes on this podcast that I’ve talked about with almost every single person we’ve had on as a guest is this whole idea of giving yourself permission to play. And as entrepreneurs, we tend to think that recreation that plays is a reward for a job well done. Instead of every requirement to do a good job. Right? And like a foundational requirement, that when you’re rested and relaxed and healthy and having, you have the creative mind space, right, that comes from doing those things. When you come to work, you can get a lot more accomplished and a lot less time than someone who’s working all the time and hoping eventually once they reach whatever their magical marker is that they’re going to go and play and retire or whatever.

Wes Fox 54:24
Someone always taught me and I reversed it. They said, work hard, play hard, like that’s what you got to do. And I was like, why not? Play hard so I can work hard. So I teach people move, movement is life. Get moving, have fun, as you say, play. And then, the work in the reaping what you sow, are so. You’ll see it, versus if you work hard, and then don’t ever play. You’re not going to see anything. Your growth is going to be stunted. It’s going to take forever, it’s going to be a miserable process and you’re not going to enjoy it. And that’s why I get a lot of sick entrepreneurs. Because they work themselves into the ground, and I think that all this work is gonna pay off for them and they have millions of dollars now, yet they’re more unhappy than they’ve ever been in their entire life.

Richard Matthews 55:10
Now, it’s interesting because like, I was on that path. And then, I changed it. And a couple years later, and then I met you, which is cool. So like, I met you, when I was already on the path of how can I make myself healthy enough that I can play forever? Because that was sort of, I think I told you that like, my goal is I want to be able to chase my grandkids as well as I can raise my kids now.

Wes Fox 55:34
I want to be the dude who’s 80 who doesn’t like it. I want to still kick the crap out of my son who’s like 30 or 40 at the time, how horrible he is. And the biggest thing that drives me is, I was just shocked like the whole Steve Jobs thing. It’s like the dude had billions of dollars, billions of dollars. But he didn’t have his health and then you just drop dead. Drop dead and can’t use any of that money, can’t enjoy his life. He never enjoyed anything. I know of, and it’s like, Dude, it’s not about the money, it’s play, have fun and the money will come with it versus people focus on the money, never play. And then they get to that point where it’s like, “Oh, I missed out on the whole aspect of life what the purpose is.”

Richard Matthews 56:16
Absolutely. So, that basically wraps up our interview, I do have one more thing that we do on every episode, I call it the Hero’s Challenge. The Hero’s Challenge is pretty simple. And, it’s basically this, do you have someone in your life or in your network that you think has a cool entrepreneurial story? Who are they? First names are fine if you don’t have their permission. And why do you think they should come on our show and share their story?

Wes Fox 56:37
entrepreneurial one. I know -. But, I think Nick would be a good person. He’s got an interesting -He was an astronaut, went into space. Goes into volcanoes. Just his mindset on life. The biggest takeaway I’ve learned from him is that life is about experiences. That’s all you remember, is what you’ve experienced in life. You won’t remember all the money you made when you pass away. And so, I think you’d be a good perspective for people to know he’s a successful gazillionaire. And he’ll and the only thing he cares about is his experiences I think you’d be amazing for the podcast.

Richard Matthews 57:14
And if I remember right he’s like the number 10 wealthiest person in Australia or something, isn’t he?

Wes Fox 57:21
I don’t know what number. He’s pretty high up there. But when you talk to him, you wouldn’t know it because he never talks about money. He only talks about like, “Hey, this is the next trip I’m taking. I’m going into the Devil’s Anus.

Richard Matthews 57:34
Gonna go jump off of a – He’s gonna go jump off of a volcano or something like that.

Wes Fox 57:39
I mean, he just got back, did something crazy and I’m just like, but he’s learned because it’s not about money. He’s always learned. He’s like, just go experience life just like you said, go play. That’s the same thing as experience. Go play outside. Go take a trip. Go play. Go do something to experience life and he’s seen both sides of the equation. So he’d be a good person.

Richard Matthews 58:00
Absolutely. And I love that mentality too, it’s like one of the things I’m trying to instill in my kids. We read, like my son and I, every day this whole, like, since we’ve been in shelter in place, we’ve been getting up and going and rollerblade trips around the place we’re staying and you know, it’s like we’re looking forward to finding ways to play together. Right? And, everything from like, he’s been getting really interested in Pokemon and we’ve been – I took him to a tournament and like learning how to play the game with him and doing those things. It’s like, I look for excuses to play with my kids cause that’s where I’m at my life right now. I got kids at home and that’s what we’re doing. So that’s where a lot of the play happens. But you gotta play because that’s what makes you do good work.

Wes Fox 58:42
Hundred percent agree with you.

Richard Matthews 58:44
Awesome. So thank you so much for being on the show. Dr. Fox, where can people find you if they’re interested in going through your programs or maybe having you on their podcasts or whatever they’re looking for? Where can they find you and then more importantly, who are the right types of people. Just reach out if they’re looking for help with their health and things like that. If someone’s listening to this, what should they ask themselves? They’re gonna say, “Yeah, I should reach out to Doc Fox.”

Wes Fox 59:09
So first place to find an answer to question as https://drwesfox.com/

You can just schedule a consultation or find any information on there to help you out with that. And then, as far as what if someone, are you asking what they should ask them like –

Richard Matthews 59:28
If someone’s listening to the show, and they’re thinking, you know, what would be an indicator to them that they should reach out? Something in their health or their life that they should reach out and say “Hi” to you, but –

Wes Fox 59:39
I don’t think there is an indicator or what I believe is if you’ve never checked your health, then how would you know? And so, I think the first step is just to check, make sure you are healthy. So, that encompasses everyone, so we could get results back for people. And I’ve had it happen where I’m like, “Dude, you’re good.” Like, there’s not really anything to work on here. Awesome. At least that person checked. So The first step is just check. I mean, because at the end of the day, it’s better to know versus take that risk of like, I’ll check tomorrow. Our brains do that to us on everything. Like, I’ll do that tomorrow. I’ll play with my kids tomorrow. Tomorrow comes and then you don’t do it. So you don’t have any health issues. If I give you any indications, then you’re just like, Well, that doesn’t – It’s not me, I’m good to go. I don’t have to check. Like No, you had to in depth check into your health or analysis, then you need to check. You need to reach out whether it’s me or another doctor, I can point you in a direction of other people too. First step, always, always check no matter what.

Richard Matthews 1:00:38
So testing is the foundation. For those of you who were like me, we’re scared of getting the test because you were like, I don’t want to find out the day I’m gonna die. It’s actually really, really fascinating to learn what your body’s doing and how it’s doing and why it’s doing some of the things it’s doing right. And to see confirmation in the testing of a lot of the things that I have experienced in life was really, really interesting to realize that like, hey, your expression in life is actually a result of your baseline health. And to realize that you can change that. You can impact it is such a cool thing. So, for me at least, good, it may I say, for me at least it made health a real thing. It made it something that for a lot of people, at least it feels like health is like this ethereal thing that happens to you, without realizing you’re in control of all the knobs and dials. And to realize that you’re sitting in front of all the knobs and dials and you can make those changes if you knew what they were and you knew what it looked like. And that’s sort of what you get when you go through that kind of testing stuff is you get to see, if you’ve seen a – what do you call it the inside out. The emotions up in the brain working with all the little boards, like hey, someone pulled the cover off the board for you and be like, Hey, did you realize you had all these knobs and dials that control your health? And you’re like, Oh, I didn’t even realize I had that.

Wes Fox 1:01:52
I always tell people, when’s the last time you popped the head open on the car? When’s the last time you looked inside? You’ve never done that. You gotta do it. And the biggest, funniest thing you reminded me of Nick actually taught me this was he used to have a countdown timer of when he was going to die. So he knew. He knew exactly how many days and hours he had left until his last day. I think it gave him like AIDS. I don’t know 95 or 88 or something, and it counted back so he would look on his screen. It’s like, you’ve got 1 million, gazillion, this many days left until you die. But he said it was so invigorating because it made him not take life for granted. It made him think, see the numbers that we’re actually turning and saying, oh, shoot, I gotta do something with my life today. I gotta go outside and go into this volcano. I got to do this. If you saw those numbers, or like you said, if you pulled up the rusty cloth over all the things inside your brain or inside, if you just uncovered everything. You would feel so much better and you take action. It’s just take the first step. Just check. That’s all I say.

Richard Matthews 1:02:56
Absolutely. Awesome. So for a thank you so much for being on the show, Dr. Fox It has been a pleasure having you here. So if you were listening to this, definitely check out it’s https://drwesfox.com/

D-R-W-E-S-F-O-X.com helped to put that website together. So that’s my plug for him as well. It’s been a pleasure working with you both myself and and have you here on the podcast, as well. And I really look forward to seeing both how your business grows and how my health grows as a result of all of these things. And if you’re listening to this, take the time out to go and actually get that level of testing done for your health. Like, doc says, pop the hood. You’ll be blown away to learn the kind of stuff that’s going on in your body and how you can impact and control it. Especially if you’re like me, entrepreneur, wanting to grow your business, wanting to live a high performance life. It’ll change your life.

Wes Fox 1:03:49
-Get into that driver seat. Thank you for having me.

Richard Matthews 1:03:53
Awesome. You have any final words of wisdom before I go ahead and hit the stop record button.

Wes Fox 1:03:57
I don’t bomb the last piece of advice. Just like you said, get in that driver’s seat and take that first step, that’s all you have to do.

Richard Matthews 1:04:04
Awesome. Thank you for coming on the show.

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