Episode 167 – Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge

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Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  0:00  

Yeah, so we have 54.2% of children in the US, a 10-year-old data says that kids have either a physical or mental health problem. So what’s a mental health problem? So if they’re diagnosed with a clinical issue it could be what’s called neurodevelopmental disorder like autism, or ADHD, anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation. I do a lot of work with anxiety, OCD, complex layered behavioral problems like Oppositional Defiant Disorder, and I specialize in a disease called PANS and PANDAS, which is a sudden onset of a mental health issue resulting from a physical, a medical problem, and infectious disease, or a toxic trigger. So it’s got to be a diagnosed clinical issue, even though I work with people who just had stress because, Holy moly, in this pandemic, Richard people are overwhelmed and stressed out. I mean, those are the two words I’m hearing all the time, overwhelmed, overwhelmed, overwhelmed, it’s a lot on people’s plates.

 

Richard Matthews  1:09  

Heroes are an inspiring group of people, every one of them from the larger than life comic book heroes you see on the big silver screen, the everyday heroes that let us live the privileged lives we do. Every hero has a story to tell, the doctor saving lives at your local hospital, the war veteran down the street, who risked his life for our freedom to the police officers, and the firefighters who risked their safety to ensure ours every hero is special and every story worth telling. But there was one class of heroes that I think is often ignored the entrepreneur, the creator, the producer, the ones who look at the problems in this world and think to themselves, you know what I can fix that I can help people I can make a difference. And they go out and do exactly that by creating a new product or introducing a new service. Some go on to change the world, others make a world of difference to their customers. Welcome to the Hero Show. Join us as we pull back the masks on the world’s finest hero preneurs and learn the secrets to their powers their success and their influence. So you can use those secrets to attract more sales, make more money, and experience more freedom in your business. I’m your host, Richard Matthews, and we are on in 3…2…1…

 

 

Richard Matthews  2:04  

Hello and welcome back to The Heroes Show. My name is Richard Matthews. And I am live on the line today with Dr. Roseann. Dr. Roseann, are you there?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  2:13  

I’m here. How are you? 

 

Richard Matthews  2:17  

I’m doing well. So glad to have you here on the show. And we were chatting just a little bit before we got on. You said you were calling in from Connecticut. Right?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  2:25  

I am from Connecticut on the New York side in Fairfield County.

 

Richard Matthews  2:30  

Nice. Yeah, we were just up there earlier. So for those of you who are following along in our podcast, we’re actually on our way down south. Now we are in Virginia, I’m just on the side of the Chesapeake Bay. But what I’m going to do real quick Roseann is do a very brief introduction before we get into your story. So people who don’t know you can get an idea of where you’re coming from. So Dr. Roseann is an integrative and pediatric medical health expert. So you work with children’s mental health issues, and you are an author and a doctor. And do you run a practice as well?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  2:59  

I do. I have a practice and I work with people in person in Ridgefield, Connecticut, but I also work with people virtually all over the world. 

 

Richard Matthews  3:08  

Awesome. So what I want to start off with is, what is it that you’re known for? Essentially, who you are? What you do? And who are the people that you help?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  3:20  

Yeah. I am a psychologist, a therapist, an author, a speaker, and kind of a media personality because I’ve done hundreds of different types of media. And I am really known for natural solutions for mental health, and more specifically kids mental health. So we’ve been in a mental health crisis before the pandemic, and now, it’s really bad. I don’t even know what else to say. It’s bad. I mean, people are we’re places are in crisis. Colorado just declared a mental health state of emergency. And people are looking for solutions beyond medication and traditional talk therapy. And so I’m really an expert. I’ve been doing this for 30 years, and I help people reduce and reverse mental health issues using only science-backed holistic therapies.

 

Richard Matthews  4:19  

So my first question, and this is only because I have four kids who I legitimately think are crazy all the time. What do you mean when you say mental health issues in children?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  4:28  

Yeah, so we have 54.2% of children in the US. A 10-year-old data says that kids have either a physical or mental health problem. So what’s a mental health problem? So if they’re diagnosed with a clinical issue which is called a neurodevelopmental disorder like autism, or ADHD, anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation, I do a lot of work with anxiety, OCD, complex layered behavioral problems like, Oppositional Defiant Disorder, and I specialize in a disease called PANS and PANDAS, which is a sudden onset of a mental health issue resulting from a physical a medical problem and infectious disease, or a toxic trigger. So it’s got to be a diagnose clinical issue, even though I work with people who just have stress because, holy moly, in this pandemic, Richard people are overwhelmed and stressed out. I mean, those are the two words I’m hearing all the time overwhelmed, overwhelmed, overwhelmed, it is a lot on people’s plates.

 

Richard Matthews  5:37  

Yeah, it’s interesting. And after sort of hearing that definition, I know, none of my kids are in those categories. They’re just normal kids crazy.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  5:44  

Yeah, your kids are probably like my kids. They’re joyous, they’re independent-spirited kids. Right?

 

Richard Matthews  5:57  

So my second question, I guess, after sort of getting a definition of what it is, is, what are the signs to know when you say, like, this isn’t normal for a child. For me, I’ve got four kids. So when one of them is doing something different, it’s really easy to be like, that’s not normal. Right? And we need to call a professional, but not everyone is in a situation where they have a control group at home. So if they have one kid, or they’re new to this, what are some of the signs that like, hey, you know what, maybe something’s off and we need to go seek help from a professional.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  6:34  

Yeah. And more people during this time, have sought out mental health treatment for the first time in their life, even adults. And so we’re becoming much more aware. So what are the signs? First of all, kids show us their difficulties with regulating their emotions or behaviors, or attention. They’re not going to tell us, I’m sad, I’m having obsessive thinking intrusive thoughts, they’re going to have physical signs, they’re going to have sleep problems. I mean, you in your RV, you’re going to know when one of your kids has a sleep problem, you know what I mean?

 

Richard Matthews  7:12  

Yeah.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  7:14  

They’re going to show changes in behavior in some way. Like, maybe they were a quiet kid, all of a sudden, they’ve become really hyper or vice versa. They might have things like gastrointestinal distress, which is very common. Gastrointestinal issues and sleep problems are two of the biggest signs that your kid is struggling in some way. And it can be stress. So stress and anxiety, for example, often look the same in the beginning. And anxiety always comes with stress, and please know stress is perceived, or real. And your brain, your nervous system just has to interpret it as a stressor, you can be living a beautiful life and a great neighborhood and have a mom and a dad and safety. And your kid can be easily distressed, and it’s occurring more and more. So the signs and symptoms you’re looking for are physical signs, changes in behaviors. And sometimes Richard, some kids just come out wired as being very difficult, like moody, snarky, always say no, very oppositional. And it can be a sign, it could be temperament, but it also can be a good indicator that there’s a clinical issue there.

 

Richard Matthews  8:37  

Yeah, absolutely. So my next follow-up question on that is I want to find out if mental issues go all the way down to things like dyslexia, and minor issues like that.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  8:55  

It can be cognitive issues and learning issues like dyslexia. My youngest is dyslexic and does incredibly well because we never did traditional schooling with him. So he never was forced to be something he’s not. So he didn’t wasn’t forced to read when he wasn’t ready. And he was able to be in a place where they honed in on his strengths, which he’s a gifted hands-on engineering kind of brain. So he was in a place where you could do that, and a lot of homeschoolers can create that. So, yes, dyslexia very, very common. It’s actually the number one most common characteristic of millionaires is that they are dyslexic, and 40% of us businesses are owned by dyslexics.

 

Richard Matthews  9:45  

Yeah, that’s crazy. And the reason I asked is because when you were talking about mental health issues. I was like, we think we don’t know that our oldest daughter might have a little bit of dyslexia. And it’s only because she was struggling a little bit at the beginning of reading. She’s getting better at it, and we started switching to putting her worksheets and all of our other stuff on dyslexic fonts. And my wife makes all of her own curriculum stuff for the kids. And putting dyslexic fonts made it easier for her to see the differences in the letters, which might just be early reading stuff, but it might also be dyslexia. But she’s also a very hands-on kind of child. So it’s one of the benefits of homeschooling.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  10:23  

Yeah, well, here’s the deal. Richard, I’m going to tell you this, because I actually used to specialize in assessing dyslexia. Kids have early reading problems, there’s a problem. And there are really only a few reasons why they’re going to have early reading problems. So one would be improper instruction, which doesn’t happen that often. But two, it’s because their brain isn’t properly interpreting the sounds so that they can’t map them to the letters. dyslexia is so common. 80% of kids who receive special education have a literacy goal. And dyslexia is also totally hereditary. So you can have it in your family, you have it in any line of your family. 

 

Richard Matthews  11:10  

My mom has dyslexia and my wife’s Dad too.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  11:18  

Yeah, it’s there. And it’s very likely that one of your other kids will have it too. So just a free piece of advice. There’s a homeschooling dyslexia reading program. It’s called Barton, so go and get it.

 

Richard Matthews  11:36  

Yeah, definitely. Because she’s gotten to the point now he’s reading her own chapter books and whatnot. Because we were able to really help her with the struggles she had a couple of years ago when she was an early reader. And I just know, it wasn’t as much of a struggle for her older brother. So it might be a dyslexic thing. So we started following that path. And she’s doing really well with it. And she reads well, she reads to her sisters now, which is cool. And it’s funny because the more I’ve actually learned about it, I think I might have small bits of dyslexia, mostly with numbers. We’re all transposing numbers wrong, and not notice it until after I’ve hit the call button. I’m like, oh, I transpose a couple of numbers.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  12:22  

You know, there are levels. I definitely married into a family of Dyslexics, but they would never call themselves Dyslexics. They’re all high, intellectually gifted people, and they’re all engineers, but they’re all bad spellers. And there’s no reason they’re bad spellers. I was like, oh, and then my little guy, he was really pretty severe. There’s a prescription for dyslexia. And it radiates 95 to 97% of the time. And it’s using kinesthetic learning. So it’s really fascinating because I have worked with people of all different income levels, but I’ve definitely worked with a ton of entrepreneurs. And they can have extraordinary amounts of wealth, and they’ll bring their kid in, and they’re like, I have dyslexia too, just like you, and they’re so creative. So many business people are Dyslexics because their minds are so creative. And they tend to have a higher IQ than normal. So they’re smart, and they’re creative. And if you’re nurtured and cultivated, they can be so successful. It’s just really hard in traditional schooling to be dyslexic today because it’s often missed. And kids then start to develop self-esteem problems, because they’re so smart. They can memorize words, without reading them without understanding the phonics code. But you can’t escape the phonics, you have to know how to sound out words.

 

Richard Matthews  13:53  

That was one of our first indicators with our child was we’d read or something, and she just memorizes and read about it.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  14:00  

Yeah, absolutely. So it’s always just so interesting. And it’s one of the most treatable conditions that kids have. And sadly, what happens is, if my John Carlo was left, and he was in a public school, he would start feeling terrible about himself. Like every day, I get kids who have anxiety and depression because they weren’t identified early. And learning is such a challenge for them. So reading unlocks learning.

 

Richard Matthews  14:31  

It’s an interesting thing since we’re on the discussion of homeschooling, and being able to take care of things like dyslexia is a fairly minor mental health struggle. But one of the things that we’ve noticed is we get asked all the time, like, oh, how do you socialize with your kids. Because they’re homeschooled, and we get it all the time. Like probably the number one question we get asked. 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  14:50  

Number one question, yeah.

 

Richard Matthews  14:53  

We’ve been homeschooling now for seven or eight years, however long our kids have been in school. It’s been a long time. And because we travel full time, we have this really weird thing that during the week, all the kids that we hang out with are other homeschooled kids, because they’re the ones that are in the parks that we’re at. And then on the weekends, you get all the public school kids who come in, you get to interact with them. So you would get to see public school kids at home school kids just on and off all the time. So we have a really clear picture, and I’ve noticed some very clear differences in their social skills. 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  15:28  

Oh, HollyMolly, Richard, are there clear differences? 

 

Richard Matthews  15:33  

The homeschool kids tend to have incredible social skills because they’re interacting with people all over the spectrum, they’re interacting with elders in the community, and they’re interacting with the other kids, and they’re interfering with adults. And they’re interacting with everyone. Because they’re just sort of part of life. And we get the kids from public school and not like they’re mean or their misbehavior or anything, a lot of times they’re well behaved, they don’t have the same level of social ability because most of their interactions are with other kids the same age. So they have a one adult relationship. 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  16:11  

Their play is different. Right? 

 

Richard Matthews  16:14  

So I don’t know how to characterize it, but I would call it meaner.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  16:21  

Yeah, well, we’re not enculturating kindness in the world, not in 2021. As somebody caught me off getting on the ramp today and flipped me the bird. I was like, You caught me off. Like, why are you flipping me the bird? It was so funny with my kid and was hysterical. So let’s just get this clear. It takes one to two hours of homeschooling the instruction to equal the amount of learning in a six-hour school day. Okay, so one to two hours of direct instruction equals six hours in a school day. Okay, so what does that mean? Homeschoolers have time for play. So they are doing a creative play, they’re doing a play that we did when we were kids, you know what I mean? They’re playing, making stuff out of nothing. Like, I can’t even have enough tape at home with my kids, because they just are always making something. Right, Richard, it’s like the number one requested item, you got a box and some tape, it’s pretty cool.

 

Richard Matthews  17:27  

And paper, lots of paper.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  17:27  

Yeah and paper, lots of paper and already stuff. And they just do things differently, they have time to do that kind of free play. And so with free play comes problem solving and creativity. And so, public school kids are used to structured play, and I’m saying this, as somebody who’s done a lot of observations with kids who go to public school, and we’re not saying they’re less than, we’re just pointing out differences, right? And I believe that there is the right kind of school for everybody. And everyone’s got to make the right choice for themselves. Like, there’s no bad school, but there could be a learning environment, it’s not right for your child. And so, when you think about how they learn culturally. And kids today, what they are, are a reflection of their parents and parents are stressed. And they’re not so nice.

 

Richard Matthews  18:31  

I said the word meaner earlier, but when you think about it, like looking back and watching my kids interact, the kids that come out of public school, seem stressed, and when they end up in the campgrounds with us and the other kids. They’re blowing off steam.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  18:49  

Yeah, but to role modeling, the lady had kids in her car today that flipped me the bird, you know what I mean? Like, it’s that same kind of intensity. They don’t have to self-regulate Richard, because they’re not given the same opportunity. Play is a way for kids to learn how to regulate, right? And if we want our kids to be successful in any area in life, socially, academically, and workwise in the future, they have to learn how to regulate their nervous system. And play is a key factor in that.

 

Richard Matthews  19:26  

What’s really fascinating about that is one of the things that we talk about on this show all the time, because it’s something I’ve had to learn as an adult, because I grew up in public school. And I connect with what you just said a lot is that I had to change one of my mindsets. Something that you’re taught in school is that play is a reward for work well done. But in the real world, play and rest are a requirement for doing good work. And you have to flip that script in your head, you have to really understand that like, hey, you have to give yourself permission to play. Give yourself permission to go on the walk with your dog or go outside and roll in the mud with your kids or do those things and realize that when you come back from recreation is when you can do your best work.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  20:12  

You know, I’m the brain lady and everything I do is neuroscience informed, my latest book is called, It’s Going To Be OK. And it has 40 pages of research in it single-spaced. And I don’t mess around because I want people to know, there’s a lot of science backed things that are safe and natural, and can really change things and even reverse symptoms and issues. And so that’s often shocking to people. Like, I have to talk them out of taking medication, they’re ready to go down the pill train pathway instead of being like, oh, let me try some medication, oh, it’s not going to work. And I’m like, well, hold on, there’s a lot of research. And the basis of all this is that we’ve dysregulated nervous systems. And you know, there’s a lot of entrepreneurs that listen to this. And I think that it’s really interesting, I am in the clubhouse a lot. And in the beginning, I would just hit in these rooms, and they would all talk about the way I was doing this, I was doing that. And I had to learn that I had to go to therapy, I had to learn that I had to breathwork, I had to learn I had to do biofeedback. Like in the end they pushed push just like what you’re saying Richard and then they realized, well, I’m not able to be my best self in my brain doesn’t work well and I can’t achieve financially, emotionally socially, I can’t achieve at the levels I want to kind of calm myself down a little bit and feel good in my body and that’s what that getting your nervous system from a stressed-out sympathetic dominant to a relaxed, parasympathetic state. That’s what it does. And kids are masters at being able to get in there and do that. It’s when we start pushing them to these unattainable things, having a first grader write a paragraph, that’s just crazy. That’s not developmentally appropriate. But somehow in the last 10 years, we’ve decided it. I remember the teacher coming up to me and I still do a lot of consulting work for schools, and this was a “she should” school, I like to call it and she said, look at this handwriting. And I was like, I knew she was a preschool teacher. And I said, how old is this kid? She said, four. She’s like, this is a real problem. I said, he’s four years old, he’s not supposed to be writing his name. And he is writing his name. And it’s normal for his handwriting to not be so great. And she was like, well, the other kids can do it. I’m like, oh, here we go. You know, it’s like, we have to readjust and remember what kids mean. This year, I think a silver lining is that people are like, wait, I better take care of my mental health. Like, I feel awful. I’m not enjoying life, I’m not celebrating little moments. I’m not present for my kids.

 

Richard Matthews  23:05  

One of the things that cracks me up about my children is I’ve got an 11-year-old, he’s my boy. And his handwriting is just the worst. And it’ll 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  23:16  

He’s probably gonna be a doctor Richard. That’s right. We already know it.

 

Richard Matthews  23:24  

Hopefully, he’s not close enough to hear this. He hasn’t realized yet that he’s smarter than me. And I hope he doesn’t anytime soon. And then there’s my daughter. And she’s seven. When she’s writing her name or something like that, if the circle in her name is not perfect, she’ll cry and erase it and start over again. And her handwriting is just perfect. And I’m like, I can’t even write as good as my daughter can write. And I can’t color in between the lines as well as she can, it just cracks me up how different they are.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  23:59  

Oh, I mean, and they come out who they are. And we used to celebrate and hone in on our kid’s strengths, and your daughter, she puts pressure on herself, right? She’s got that perfectionist tendency, you’ve got to watch that and balance that because you want a little of that, anxiety is good, but a lot, when it’s to hold you back is a problem.

 

Richard Matthews  24:20  

We have a lot of work we have to do with her on that. On the whole idea that, when she feels stressed out and then does not want to try. So we have a lot of little things like it’s okay to get things wrong, It’s not trying. Because she’ll be afraid of getting something wrong. So she just won’t do anything. And I’ve been trying to show her a lot with things like, my life and my business is like, in order for us to succeed growing our business, we basically have to fall on our face a lot, right?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  24:54  

You have to be comfortable with imperfection. Like, I wrote four books in the first four months of the pandemic, let me tell you don’t email me that there’s a typo in there because I don’t really care. Because I’d like to see you write one book, okay? And propensity for people in the entrepreneur space, there’s so much about imposter syndrome and mindset. And I hang out with some really famous, well-known people. And I’m in this a great business mastermind and really well-known people in there the first time, I was like, are we really having our first meeting about the mindset about money? Like, can’t accept that you’re making money? And I spent the whole day and I listened, and I learned some actually some good, money-saving tips. But I got up and said, I’m just gonna say this to you. I was raised to not have any concern about making money. And it’s holding you back, and you know it. And it’s all about these belief systems within ourselves. And there are so many things that fear, you know, we make 70% of all decisions based on fear. And we make 35,000 decisions a day. 

 

Richard Matthews  26:20  

Wow. 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  26:21  

35,000. So 70% of them are to avoid something. And it doesn’t matter, parents come to me all the time. Like, they’ll have this genius kid, and he’s in college. And they’re like, oh, but he won’t do this, he won’t do that. Because it’s always worry, It’s always anxiety. And you ask, how do you notice these things in your kids? Well, most people aren’t connecting the dots until somebody, a young adult, even takes 11 years from the onset of a problem on average before somebody gets proper mental health help in the United States. And that may be shocking. But I’m going to tell you, that’s totally typical. Because some of the most anxious people, people with OCD, struggling with depression, suicidal thoughts, could be stellar employees, students, and they’re just putting all their energy into that performance component. And they’re not finding that way to feel comfortable within their own body and their own mind and feel good about themselves. And so they crash and burn, they hit a wall. But anxiety and fear over perfectionism are definitely one of the biggest Achilles heels for any business person, because you have to be comfortable with your mess, and just doing it.

 

Richard Matthews  27:39  

And I know I struggle with that all the time, about perfectionism and wanting to get over it. And I’ve learned a lot of tools. Hopefully, I’ll be able to help my daughter get over it as well. I want to ask a couple of other questions and move on and I want to talk a little bit about your superpowers. We talked on the show all the time, every hero has a superpower, whether that’s a fancy flying suit, made by genius intellect, or the ability to call down Thunder or super strength. In the real world, heroes have what I call a zone of genius, which is either skill, or a set of skills that you were born with, or you developed over the course of your life. They really help you help the people in your life slay their villains and come out on top in their journeys. And if you really think about it, you can take all the skills that you’ve developed over your life, there’s probably a common thread that ties them all together. And with that sort of framing, what do you think your superpower is in your practice in your business? 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  28:36  

Well, I’m gonna say I think I have quite a few superpowers. And they are tied together. 

 

Richard Matthews  28:44  

Knowing the superpowers of other people? 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  28:46  

Yeah, no exactly, that would be a great superpower. And my kid asked me this every day, he asked me, what’s your favorite Superpower? I’m gonna say that this superpower is tied to my ability to do what I do. And really, it’s to not give a crap what people think. And so I was enculturated and raised to be myself, and only do what was authentic and right. And when you are empowered to have a voice, boy, does it just like, open a lot in the world. It also can cause some friction in the world, because I was like this, too. I’d be like, what are you doing? You shouldn’t be saying that you better be nice. I just saw you steal that, put it back. And what it did for me is that when I got into mental health three years ago, this year, it was unacceptable to me that people were struggling, and we didn’t have solutions. And I was like, what do you mean, we only have pills and talk therapy? I was like, let me go down to the basement of the library and look at the microfiche, and sure enough, It just opened up the door to so many other things that I was not being taught. So I said, I am absolutely going to be the solution fighter I am that person that everybody comes to, unfortunately, when they’re out of hope, when they’ve tried psychiatric medications a dozen times when their kid is about to go to a psych hospital, or their kid flunked out of college, because they’re suicidal, whatever it is, I’ve become that person, because I said, No, this is unacceptable. Let me do the research. I’m very inquisitive. I’m a Fact Finder, let’s look at the data and I’m really, really good at synthesizing. What I do, there’s a lot of science, but there’s an art behind it. And so, there isn’t a person that I can’t help, the only time I can help somebody is when they get in the way of their own success. So I am a master of getting to what’s behind, and really those root causes, and unwinding and creating change and behavior.

 

Richard Matthews  31:10  

The thing that pops up in my head. I’m curious how true this is. But one of the things I’ve found is, I started working with a health coach a couple of years ago now, and really getting my health in line, I wasn’t unhealthy. But I wanted to be top-notch and started working on getting to the best physical fitness that I could be in. And he started with a lot of really crazy stuff like, clean your liver, clean your gut, clean parasites, and all those things. And he’s like, once you get that stuff, then you can start working on physical fitness. And then we’re working on hormone treatments, figuring out how to make sure your body is doing what it supposed to do all the time. One thing that I’ve noticed is that I don’t know what the appropriate words are, but ideation ability, and cognitive ability, and the ability to think and your clarity and your focus, all of that have improved with my health. So I’m curious, does it go the other direction? That when you’re ending up with disorders, that is coming down to your physical health?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  32:20  

Absolutely. And my book, It’s Going to be OK,  it really lays out my 30 years worth of work. And not everybody can come and not everybody can come to work with me in person, or even work with me virtually for a variety of reasons, right. And so I lay out the eight pillars of mental health, and it’s still shocking to people, that what you put in your mouth, what you put in your body, really affects how your brain works. And as frightened as people are making dietary changes or adding supplements because you have genetic mutations that interfere with how your liver detoxifies and these kinds of things. So it’s just one of the most common things, you’ve learned that right?

 

Richard Matthews  33:04  

I got a whole thing that was like how my body processes all the different things. And I was like, my body doesn’t process. I think it’s Zinc or vitamin E, I just don’t have the genetics, whatever that makes my body processes things. And he was like, you can’t supplement vitamin E and you can’t supplement Zinc. You don’t process them well, so you need to get those benefits from other areas. And I was like who knew, right?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  33:30  

And so, when I work with people, It’s definitely a multi-pronged approach. Because we look in for the magic wand, right? I actually have a magic wand on my desk. And I whip it out at every intake because people come in thinking there’s one thing and so it’s you didn’t get there, it didn’t happen overnight, you’re going to take some time, there are pieces, but the great part of that instead of being like, Oh my god, I have five things Dr. Roseann told me to do? No, it’s like, oh, my God, I have five things that can help me, we’ve got to shift that inner dialogue. But there are so many physical things going on within our body that actually really impact our mental health. The good marketing from pharma has made you believe that everything is biochemical. And what I’m here to tell you is that genetics is probably the least likely thing that I see as a mental health cause what I’m seeing is poor diet, chronic stress. And for kids, chronic stress, what does that look like? It could have been your son being forced to be in a public school and that identified and constantly being behind, and that kind of pressure could emit from one of the kids I’m working with, he was ridiculed by the other kids. He’s the smartest kid in that damn class, but his output didn’t match his intelligence. And so the theory is coming to me and I’m not sharing anything private, because this is a common story here. He is coming to me as a teenager, and he’s suicidal, and his parents are lovely, and so we’re able to turn things around. But so many things can impact our mental health beyond biochemistry and genetics. And people need to hear that because it means there’s so much we can do to reduce and reverse symptoms.

 

Richard Matthews  35:28  

Yeah, and I wasn’t having a problem with anything. 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  35:35  

Yeah. You were just optimizing your biohacking.  

 

Richard Matthews  35:37  

Yeah, biohacking. And saw a dramatic improvement in things that I wasn’t expecting to see improvements with, which is funny, because the guy that I still work with, was like, hey, you’re gonna start seeing improvements in these areas. And I was like, yeah, right. Because I couldn’t believe any of that. I was like, I just want to get fit to be able to keep up with my son as he becomes a teenager. And he’s like, there are other benefits. And I was like, yeah, whatever. But you see it happening, you’re like, oh, wow, I can do many things in the same amount of time.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  36:06  

So many parents come in and I work with adults too. But kids are my passion. And so many of the parents are like, holy moly, this kid’s never focused. Can I do this too? And I’m like, absolutely. We’re going to do this. We’re going to clean up your diet. But we use neurofeedback, which really gets you to another level. I mean, everyone always says to me, like, how is it possible that you do so many things, and you can write these books and you can do that? And I’m like, I’m paleo sweet, real clean. And so I’m eating high nutrient-dense food. So I’m getting a lot of nutrients just from what I eat. But I exercise. I practice gratitude and joy every day. And I’ve done a boatload of neurofeedback and neurofeedback is a way to get your brain to regulate and really optimize, it’s something that all the astronauts are mandated to do before they go to space, all the major athletes do it. And it just gives you clarity and a focus and lightning speed to your processing. I always say that, again, I’m clearly intelligent, I got a doctorate, but there’s intelligence, and then there’s lightning speed processing. And in that what it does is it changes the neural connections in the pathways. So there’s so much more in the world for people and it’s accessible. There are things people can do.

 

Richard Matthews  37:30  

Yeah, and you have a tremendous amount of potential in this body we were given. And when you really learn how to fix your health, you can do a lot.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  37:42  

Yeah, and these are all anti-aging things. So these are things that I use all the time to address clinical issues, regardless of age dysfunction. There’s no way you can improve to some degree with these things. The degree of improvement is unique to each person, but these are also the same tools that we use for anti-aging. Like, why is it that Jane Fonda is looking amazing in her 80s besides her facelift, but she’s eating super clean, she’s exercising, she does meditation, she’s really treating her body a temple and she’s physically and cognitively active, it’s really important. So we’re going to be living a lot longer. We want to live with super high quality.

 

Richard Matthews  38:29  

Yeah, and I hear some of the technology that’s coming out nowadays, and this might actually lead right into some of the stress too. I was talking to someone else on our podcast, just probably a few weeks ago now. And they were talking about the technology’s impact on learning that kids today are learning at 10x the speed and volume of kids 20 years ago. And that’s only going to get faster and higher volume as technology. There we’re talking about some of the stuff that they’re getting into, they’re calling it Edutech and FinTech and some of those things, where it’s, it’s almost to the point where they can plug into your brain and download Kung Fu like the matrix. That kind of stuff is happening. And people are learning more and learning faster and having to keep up with the change and all those things. And I think it leads to the kind of stress that you’re talking about.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  39:28  +

 

You know, your guest is right to a point. But with over 50% of kids having issues with physical and mental health. They’re not learning at the same rate, because they’re not treating their bodies like a temple where we’re giving our kids poor quality food. I mean, lunches in school are filled with terrible food. Kids are not sleeping enough. We’re not getting to those pillars. I mean, I talk about all this in my book, It’s Going to be OK. We have to think about the pillars of physical and mental health. And so in order to learn at lightning speed, which is what I talked about, you got to treat your body like a temple, right? I’m going to tell you that I literally have had many, many occasions where I have almost like an instantaneous download, where I do a certain training on people like, how is it possible that you just got that, and I’m telling you, I’m in a room with people that are MD’s. And these are not slackers, you know what I mean? And it’s really because of the functional approach that I take, the clean diet, and stress management. So when we are hyper stress-activated, and your nervous system is in that sympathetic dominant state, our frontal lobes go offline, we are not capable of taking in language paying attention or taking action in the same way, because of primitive reflexes, our brain takes its resources, it goes offline, and it’s trying to find a stressor, it will ignore your regular job, it will ignore what the body’s supposed to do. And we saw this in the pandemic, I’ve never seen more kids struggle with focus and motivation ever. So I agree that there are amazing ways for kids to learn. And you can learn in any way shape or form now like kids can watch videos, they can participate in things, they can be in classrooms, they can have hands-on experiences, but you have to have the right gas in your Ferrari for it to work properly. And it doesn’t.

 

Richard Matthews  41:44  

One of the things that it’s always sort of bothered me is, I know, kids, for instance, come out with a clean slate, most of the time, right? Unless they have some issue genetically 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  42:02  

Yeah or a birth trauma, which is very common.

 

Richard Matthews  42:05  

Yeah. For the most part, kids come out healthy. And so when you see the kids come out like my son is fit. And he’s fit because he’s a kid. And he hasn’t had a lot of time to mess it up yet. And so one of the things that have always bothered me is when you see some of his friends or people that we meet that aren’t fit. I’m like, if they’re not fit, because it’s a natural state. And it means that they’re not getting the good food, they’re not being active. Because we don’t do anything special for our kids to be fit. 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  42:13  

They are just active, you’re like, get out and play.

 

Richard Matthews  42:50  

Yeah, just go out and play. So that’s the default state when they’re not that way, you’re like, they’re not getting the opportunities they could have. So that needs some fixing because it’s a problem we have in our culture.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  43:07  

I mean, I think, first of all, people have an awareness like people, they’re gonna tell me, I’m not gonna have sugar and this and that, I’m like, listen, there’s no nutritional value in sugar, you’re giving your kids sugar, It was an eye-opener to me, we love going to Disney World, I haven’t gone a long time. And one year, we did an annual pass, and we went a total of 29 days, over four trips, it was a good time. And so we stay in the fancy ones. But one day, we had to fly in early, and we didn’t, and we had to go one night. And it was shocking to me because the food was completely different. They were serving Pepsi at breakfast, and then they were serving total junk. And I was so naive. And then, there are places where food deserts, people have a hard time accessing quality food. And I spent a lot of time educating, like, you got to give your kids protein if that means hot dogs are the only type of food you have or canned tuna. We’ll start there. You know what I mean? It costs the same as it does for a bag of Cheetos. So like, people often talk about the cost, but junk food is expensive, too. So and then there are ramifications and you need more junk food to fill up. Because when you eat protein and fats and vegetables, you’ve got to need less of it to fill up. Unless you have growing teenagers, God helps us all.

 

Richard Matthews  44:43  

I’m gonna have a teenager shortly and he’s on the verge, like some days, he’s like, I don’t want anything and other days. He’s like, he’ll eat three times as much as I do.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  44:51  

I know. It’s scary, right? But it’s so important, kids need to be physically active. This was a hard year for kids because they had to do so much seated learning with virtual learning and there wasn’t an opportunity or they’re not used to free play. And they didn’t know how to do free play or how to do a lot of work at the beginning of the pandemic about teaching parents how to get their kids to play independently. They just weren’t used to it and parents would say go and play. And you can say that because your kids know how to but they have to actually back it up and sit down with them and show them activities that they can do on their own.

 

Richard Matthews  45:37  

One of the things that I found really helpful when we’re going around is if you have a kid who knows how to free play, just stick them in the group like my son’s that way. 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  45:45  

Yeah and then he’ll take over.

 

Richard Matthews  45:48  

He’ll take over and have them doing things.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  45:51  

I know. Isn’t it awesome? I watched it all the time with the homeschoolers. It’s really pretty cool. I remember when we were exclusively homeschooling, my kids would be like, these are a bunch of public school kids, they don’t know how to play. And I’m like, just organize an activity, you know.

 

Richard Matthews  46:06  

Teach them, I started off young with them when we’d go to the park. And he’d be like, What do I do? I was like, go find all the other kids to play with. And by the end of the afternoon, he’s got all the kids gathered up playing a game of tag together 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  46:20  

Yeah, tags are always a good one. 

 

Richard Matthews  46:23  

Yeah, at this point, I’ve realized there are lots of variations on the game of tag that they’ve come up with. So I didn’t know all about it.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  46:36  

like, oh, we did this. I’m like, What is that? Now I go. It’s a form of tag, right? Yeah.

 

Richard Matthews  46:42  

So there’s a virus tag, and there’s a zombie tag.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  46:47  

Oh, yes, zombie tag. We do zombie apocalypse a lot in our house. 

 

Richard Matthews  46:53  

One of the ones I played as a kid is tag sardines. But they have a different name for it now.  It’s always fun. They come up with different stuff. And now, of course, all the tag games, whoever is winning is doing fortnight dances when they win so 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  47:10  

badly bring that in? 

 

Richard Matthews  47:12  

Yeah, that’s important nowadays. I want to shift and talk about the flip side of your superpower. So if your superpower is one side of the coin, the other side of that coin is the fatal flaw. Every Superman has his kryptonite, or Wonder Woman has her bracelets of victory she can’t remove without going mad. I think we all have our kryptonite, and something you struggled with within your business. For me, there were a couple of things I mentioned already. I struggled with perfectionism a lot, as an entrepreneur, and had to learn how to overcome that which kept me from shipping products. And I also struggled with a lack of self-care, which wasn’t just health stuff. But also, I didn’t have good boundaries with my clients. And I let them walk all over me and struggled with things like that, and not knowing my own value. But I think more important than what the flaw is, is how have you worked to rectify it? So our audience might learn a little bit from your experience?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  48:03  

Yeah, I mean, I have truly been very lucky in that I am a second-generation entrepreneur. So my dinner conversations every day were a college course and entrepreneurship. And so I was able to be successful, just right out of the gate. And what are some things that I have learned and have gotten in the way? And I think one of the hardest things for me to understand is that not everybody was ready for getting better. And my logical mind was like, how is that possible? How is that possible? How is that possible? Well, sometimes people don’t like change. And I think that is a lesson in itself, that it’s hard for people to change, whether it’s your employees, or your customers, and helping to soften change for people has been something that’s very helpful for me. So I am so logical, and yet, so heart-driven, I just go with the flow. Like I’m the person you want leading a ship, right? Like I’m the captain of the ship in a storm because I’m cool as a cucumber. But most people can’t tolerate change. So helping to prepare people before, whether it’s an employee or a client, has definitely been something I’ve worked on, have learned, and have realized you need to get drips of it. You need to paint the picture. You need to have conversations, and ultimately, in the end, every time I’ve done a shift in business, every time I do a big shift, I’m gonna lose an employee. And you need to be prepared for that. And you need to be okay with that. And in the beginning, that was so hard, Richard, but people are so scared of change, that they would rather leave a fabulous thing for uncertainty. And so just being prepared for people’s reactions to change is something that I continue to evolve and work on.

 

Richard Matthews  50:27  

So one of the things that strikes me about that is because I’m the same way, I’m similar to you. I’m the kind of person that is like, my wife, and I arranged our own marriage and got married, we’ve been together for 12 years, and like, I dropped out of college to start a business and we moved our business from one side of the country to the other and sold everything we owned and moved into an RV. And like, we’re working on a sailboat so like changes just life, I have no problem at all with any of that. And you just do it and move forward. But not everyone is like that. Not everyone’s as crazy as we are. So one of the things that I’ve noticed helps when I’m either talking to other people, or working with my staff, or anything like that, or talking to clients because one of the things that I do is I’m helping them change their business. And so they have to shift things. I have this mental picture I use for the people that I call the crocodile-infested River. And so you’re on one side of the crocodile-infested river, and you want to change, you want to get something to the other side, you want to live in the promised land pursuing on the other side of the crocodile-infested river. And I’ve noticed if you spend your time teaching and talking about the stuff that has to happen in order for the change to go on, like, that’s all the stuff that’s been going across the river, you have to change your diet, you have to do these things, you have to do whatever is on the path of, it’s the crocodiles in the river. If you talk about the crocodiles in the river, people don’t want to cross the river. So I have to spend more time talking about what life looks like after they get into the promised land. What does your life look like once this is already done? On the other side of the change, that’s the only thing that helps motivate people to want to cross the river.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  52:11  

But ultimately, Richard, what I’ve learned is that some people are so scared of the change, they would rather keep pushing the crocodile away, instead of going over. And it’s never about anything you offer. It’s never anything about you. It’s always about them. And some people aren’t ready for a healing journey, even though they show up on my door, and I used to be like, What can I say? What can I do? And yes, I paint the picture. I do all that. But when it comes to having had a problem for a long time, some people are scared. And they think there’s going to be one magic thing. There’s comfort in chaos.

 

Richard Matthews  53:00  

I know this problem. I understand everything about it. And I don’t know what life looks like. And you touched on this earlier, when you’re talking about your mastermind group, that a lot of times you get to this point where you’re like, suddenly you’re successful. Like, you grow your business, and you work hard, and you’re working your ass off, and you’re always broke, you always put your money back into the business. And then suddenly, you hit that point, after years and years and years of effort, that now you have more money than you did before, right now you’ve reached that success point. And you’re like, now it’s uncomfortable, and you don’t know what to do with it. And you’re like, I don’t understand success. It’s the same kind of thing where you’re like, I was comfortable being broke, and I was comfortable putting all my money back in my business. I was comfortable doing that. And now you’re in a different space, and you don’t know how to deal with it. And it’s that same type of fear. Fear of the unknown, I guess.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  53:52  

It’s the fear of the unknown so that definitely, I just know that 99% of the world is going to struggle with change, even little changes. And you just how you approach it and how you paint the picture. You have to be soft, and you have to do a beach walk-in for other people. Because you and I are jumping in and they’re not.

 

Richard Matthews  54:18  

I feel like this next question ties right in because I think it might be up the same alley, and it’s about your common enemy. Every superhero has their arch-nemesis. It’s the thing you constantly have to fight against in your world. And it takes a lot of forms. But generally speaking, it’s a mindset or it’s a flaw that your clients have the people who come to you, if you had your magic wand, which I saw you pull out and you could bop them on the head and not have to worry about that. What is your common enemy with your clients?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  54:44  

It’s trust. It’s so easy, it’s trust. They don’t trust that the solution will work. They don’t trust that they are the CEO of their family, mental health, physical health, they don’t trust and they let fear creep in and say, oh, but there’s got to be a pill. And they don’t get that, even if there was a pill, you still have to change your behavior. So it’s really trusting me trusting the process trusting themselves.

 

Richard Matthews  55:19  

Now, so, with that in mind, how do you help your clients overcome that lack of trust?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  55:27  

What I tried to do is paint the picture of what it could look like, but also to help them understand that their gut is telling them, this is the direction they picked up the phone, they came in, they met with me. And ultimately, it’s about helping them to see that what they were doing wasn’t working. And that inner voice is telling them that, and this is what they want, they want certain things for themselves, they want certain things for their family. And they’ve really got to point to follow the research and follow their gut. So it’s part of why I really do a lot of research and share research, because so many people approach things with questions that are so analytical, but ultimately, it’s about what they are feeling and what’s in their heart. And when you’re so stressed, you don’t always easily connect inside. But I always tell everybody, listen, whatever you do, you’ve got to work on trusting yourself. Because you know the answers, we all knew the answers, we just get so afraid. We want somebody to tell us or we want somebody to show us but it’s always within yourself, the signs are always there. And when people do certain things, whether they work with you and your business or work with me on their mental health, you got to be in you got to be all in and it’s gonna be good for me, it’s gonna be okay. So everybody who comes to me, I say, it’s gonna be okay. Because when something’s going on with your kid, boy, nothing else really seems to matter. And you’re so afraid. Again, I don’t think public schools are bad, please know, I’m not knocking public schools and looking down or whatever. I have so many kids, I work with, I do phenomenal in public school.

 

Richard Matthews  57:27  

I came from a public school system and I turned out great.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  57:29  

Me too, I hated every minute of it. My husband and I are such free thinkers. We’re like, our kids can’t, and we barely fit in on our block. Whenever somebody is like, you should join a country club. I’m like, oh, that’s a reality show. Cuz I ain’t last in there. I’ll be like, What are you sure? This is terrible. Why don’t we have yoga? Anyway, everyone has to do what’s right for them. And again, I don’t judge people, please know, I’m only kidding around. Because we all need to laugh. And everyone has to get joy in different ways. And if you love going to Country Club, and your buddies would Biff there just embrace it. You know what I mean? But for us, our kids are kids that say no to things. And so they’re just not rule followers. So they’re not going to do well in a public school. And I don’t mean no, in a disrespectful way. But my kids are like, oh, you want me to do this writing assignment? Can you explain what it’s about? Like, why do I have to do this? This is how my kids are, you know what I mean? My one kid goes to school, the teachers like, oh, this is part of this. And this is why I’m doing it. And he’s like, all done! That’s great. Do you want me to help the other kids? He’s a thinker. He needs to know, he needs to understand. And that’s okay.

 

Richard Matthews  58:54  

I have a rule in my house. That is pretty simple for all my kids. The rule is to obey the first time. And I was like, I expect you to obey when I tell you to do something or to work on an assignment or do any of those things. But I’m not like an unquestionable authority. So if I yell, stop, I expect you to stop because I see a truck that you don’t see, because I have a different perspective on life than you do. But at the same time, you can turn around and be like, Hey, Dad, why’d you ask me to stop? And I’ll tell you. So you can question everything I ever tell. You just obey first.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  59:33  

I like that, that’s cool. My kids know, safety is paramount. So if I’m like, hey, they know how to do it, because I’m not like that. So they’re like, Oh, she just told me hey. I heard my teenager telling another parent the other day, because I was swearing at him and he was like, yeah, one swear no big deal, two swears you better run. And I was like, Oh, that’s so interesting that he picked that up on me because I’m not typically angry. So he knew in his mind.

 

Richard Matthews  1:00:08  

Like he knows the middle name, the middle name comes out. 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:00:11  

Oh, that’s right. 

 

Richard Matthews  1:00:15  

That’s funny. So I want to talk about the flip side of your common enemy. So the common enemy is trust, that’s what you fight against. The driving force is what you fight for. Just like Spider-Man fights to save New York or Batman fights to save Gotham or, Google fights to index and categorize all the world’s information. And now with all of its people and everything else, who knows what else is categorizing? But what is it that you fight for, in your business, in your practice, and your books?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:00:39  

Well, I’m on a mission to change the way we view and treat mental health. I mean, that’s what I talk about every day. And I want people to understand that there are natural solutions that work and that can really start changing things from them sometimes on day one, and I don’t want them to be so stuck, and so really, that’s what I’m fighting for. And I do all of this to start creating a ripple effect. Like, whenever I speak, I try to say, if you’re hearing this, and you’re resonating, take this podcast, share it with five people who you think it would make a difference, because they’re going to listen, and they’re going to share with five people. And we have to get the message out to people because kids are suffering, parents are suffering, it’s not okay. And until they actually take action, nothing is going to change. And so that’s what I’m doing.

 

Richard Matthews  1:01:36  

Yeah, it’s a good message too, and that’s why we call it the Hero Show, they’re changing the world. The more people get their mind and their health right, the more we can solve the world’s problems.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:01:53  

Absolutely, and boy will be much happier.

 

Richard Matthews  1:01:57  

Yeah, absolutely. So I want to talk about some practical things, just in that line of actually making that happen, I call this section of the show, the Hero’s tool belt. Just like every hero has their awesome gadgets, like batarangs, or web slingers, or magical hammers that they can spend and fly with. I’m talking about the top one or two tools you couldn’t live without in your business could be anything, it could be wide open, if you want to talk about your notepad or your calendar, your marketing tools, or maybe a practical thing that you use to help people make that change on the first day. Something that’s in your toolbox or your kit to help people do what they do. 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:02:34  

I would say that video is one of my top tools that I think every business owner should have in their toolkit, but I have it in my toolkit because this helps people to get your message and it helps people to get my message by people listening. So whether it’s a podcast or your video, getting your voice out is critical. And this is how I reach people and help people. So that is definitely one of my top top top tools. And then the other top tool in my business that allows me to help a lot of people I’m going to give you three but the top tool is my technology. So we use brain-based technology like neurofeedback and I’m just one of the top people in the world working with kids using neurofeedback. And that technology allows me to sometimes save people’s lives. Because they’re so depressed, and whatnot. I’m going to give you a third one, I’m a lover of everything. GSuite. I’m a lover of Google Docs and Google Sheets. 

 

Richard Matthews  1:02:51  

GSuite changed the world

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:03:47  

Oh my god, I mean, my Google Sheets, I have hundreds and hundreds of pieces of content. And I’m very organized. I’m a different kind of entrepreneur. I’m super high-end. I’m a fast action taker, but I’m high in fact, finding if anybody’s done it, Colby. And I’m also really organized because I have a Virgo rising. And I think it’s been transformative. And if you aren’t using Google and GSuite, just dig in, it’s transformative in your daily life. And it allows me to do more so I can spend more time with my patients. It allows me to better communicate and work with my team. It’s awesome. I love it. I don’t know what we did before. I hate when my book editor makes me use Microsoft Word. I’m like, really?

 

Richard Matthews  1:04:38  

I’m like, I don’t open the document and then make changes then email it back to you. And you make two copies of the document and then our life is more complicated.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:04:45  

Yeah, she’s always sending it back to me like then. I’m like, we use the shared thing, you know, it’s awesome.

 

Richard Matthews  1:04:55  

So I have a question about the second tool you mentioned which you call it neuro what?

 

Richard Matthews  1:05:00  

Neurofeedback.

 

Richard Matthews  1:05:00  

Neurofeedback so what is that? Is that something like matrix, you plug it into your brain kind of thing?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:05:08  

Pretty much No. So neurofeedback is a technology that allows the brain to regulate and how it does it is through a process of measurement and reinforcement. We have technology that you put sensors typically on your ears, and in one or two places on your head. And it gives the person feedback every time they produce a healthy combination of brainwaves. And so, within two to three seconds of a person doing neurofeedback, their brains are going to literally produce the exact healthy combination. So somebody who’s focused all of a sudden becomes focused in two to three seconds. And the feedback is a movie play. So the movie won’t play. If you don’t produce this healthy combination of brainwaves. And it’s used for everything from ADD to concussions to anxiety, OCD, and we treat a lot of clinical issues. We also just do peak performance training. So I get executives who were like, What do you mean, you wrote four books in four months? And I’m like, well I do a hundred sessions in neurofeedback, and it allows you to go to a higher level of consciousness. And really what it does is it allows you to have more neural connections, more neural networks. And that’s what Einstein had. Einstein had a genetic defect that allowed him to have 400 times the amount of neural networks.

 

Richard Matthews  1:06:31  

You can develop those? 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:06:33  

You can develop those and neurofeedback does it. It’s pretty amazing. 

 

Richard Matthews  1:06:38  

Here’s my curiosity then people who listen to the show are like I need to get started in neurofeedback, is it like something you go down to target you pick up neurofeedback?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:06:46  

No, so I work with people remotely. There are two ways people work. They either drive to my center, and sometimes people are like six or seven hours away, and they drive and I brain map them or like my people, I have somebody in Saudi Arabia and China right now. And you got to be in a decent time zone. I don’t know if I’ll do China again. But we do what’s called a brain check, where we do the statistical measurement, we do averages, and then I know where to train the brain, you got to know where the functioning is in the brain. So we know exactly what the brain does. And so we can say, Oh, this area is overworking and this area is underworking. And then we know where to train it. And then I mail people equipment, or they pick up equipment, and they’re using their equipment remotely. Some people are close enough to drive in like we’re not far from New York City. So people come from New York City all the time. 

 

Richard Matthews  1:07:46  

Really fascinating, 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:07:47  

So fascinating. And you need to do at least 20 sessions, or it’s a waste of your time because the brain is rigid and needs time to learn. And it wants to be in its cozy setpoint its homeostasis, whether it’s healthy or not. I mean, this is why the astronauts are mandated to do it before they go to space. And even though a lot of athletes start doing it, because of the concussion, you can just get to this whole other level of consciousness. It’s pretty, pretty incredible. Like it’s hard for me to describe to people. And then when I get like an executive and they do it, they’re like, oh my god Roseann it’s just exactly what you said like you feel everybody else’s in slomo. And I’m like, Oh, yeah. What’s great is this calm focus. So you’re not jacked up, you’re just processing very efficiently. So I always try to say to people, you might have one good highway or two good highways, you’re now gonna have 50 good highways. So no matter where the traffic is, you can go around it. And one of them, maybe 10 of them, is the autobahn. You know what I mean? So it just gets that clarity in the connection, you have a lot more Aha moments. So when you say it’s like the matrix and downloads, I’m not kidding, there are many, many times. I’m doing a class right now, my friends are like, we went through the same training and I’m liking it, but I do neurofeedback, you know.

 

Richard Matthews  1:09:17  

But I plug it straight into my brain through the matrix.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:09:21  

And they’re like, You even have notes for us. And I’m like, listen to me. This was not who I was like, I was always smart. But I was definitely a board student in high school. And I literally went through four years of high school and never had more than a four-day school week. So I just found a way to get out, it was just boring, but it’s okay. I don’t recommend that not saying that was the 80s and you could do that in the 80s.

 

Richard Matthews  1:09:47  

I also found it boring, but I went all the time, but I hacked it. So I was like running businesses and buying candy and selling it on campus and doing other 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:10:00  

Oh, you were the candy seller 

 

Richard Matthews  1:10:03  

I was a candy seller. And when we had the Renaissance fair, I signed up for the water cart because I knew I could make money doing that one. Because I didn’t care about the Renaissance Fair, I wanted to make money. So that’s where I was in high school. And I was like, my group of friends were the valedictorian of the salutatory. And I was with the Uber nerds, and I was uber nerdy, but my GPA was a 3.2. 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:10:04  

Yeah, that would be terrible. Trust me. 

 

Richard Matthews  1:10:34  

No, it wasn’t bad. It was just enough that my dad was happy. Because I was like, I needed to make him happy. But I don’t want to do all the work. So I was like, and I was in college prep school. So it was like one of those schools where they gave you the whole course curriculum at the beginning of the year. With all the valuations on it, I’d like to look at it. And I’d be like, so you’re telling me this project is worth 80% of my grade. And if I do that project, and these two other assignments, I’ve got an A-minus. Boom, I’ll do those three things that I won’t pay attention to anything else. Yeah, so my friends we’re always mad at me, and be like, we work 10 times as hard as you, and your grades are almost as good as ours. And I was like they gave you the thing at the beginning.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:11:14  

You are a problem solver. That’s what it was called a minimalist, but no, I say it’s a problem solver.

 

Richard Matthews  1:11:21  

Wherever that is. Yeah, so anyways, similar thing, I didn’t pay a lot of attention in school. Because I was bored, I had other things I wanted to do. 

 

Richard Matthews  1:11:28  

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Richard Matthews  1:13:00  

I have a couple more questions for you before we roll up this interview. So the next one is about your own personal heroes. Just like every hero has their mentors, Frodo had Gandalf, Robert Kiyosaki had his Rich Dad, Spider-Man has Uncle Ben. Who were some of your heroes, were they peers who are a couple of years ahead of you teachers, authors, parents, grandparents friends, and how important were they to what you’ve accomplished?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:13:23  

Yeah, certainly my parents being immigrants, and they’re just ballsy. They’re like, this is just the way it is, they taught me that there were no limits. And until I went to college, people tried to put limits on me. I was like, What do you mean you telling me a girl can’t do that? I don’t think so, you know what I mean? It’s so funny, they certainly are. And then I actually got to meet her last year. Oprah. So Oprah is definitely my mental health hero. She brought conversations into everybody’s homes about really difficult subjects from child molestation to AIDS to rape to anxiety and depression and things like that. And she brought it in such a way that people became comfortable talking about it. And I think she brought mental health, like leap years ahead by her and so it was pretty awesome that I got to meet her. And I got a picture with her. If you Google my name, Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge, you’ll see a picture of me with Oprah. So I would say that and honestly, I’m in a place where I’m in this really cool mastermind, the JJ Virgin. She’s like the grand Dom of digital wellness. I mean, she’s been in wellness for 20 years.

 

Richard Matthews  1:14:56  

She works with someone that’s in my space, Mike Koenigs worked with him for a long time.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:15:02  

Yeah. So I mean, she’s a four times New York bestselling author. I mean, she’s a friend now. And I would say that being with my peers in that group has been just heart fulfilling for me because it’s really just been a validation that you can be a really nice person who’s a go-giver, who’s just mission-driven. And achieve a lot in life. And so I get to be with other people who are go givers and it’s just been one of the best things that have ever happened to me is to be with so many other people who have their own health missions, but just are such kind caring people.

 

Richard Matthews  1:15:41  

Yeah, absolutely. And it always strikes me how the people that we consider heroes in our lives are always people that if you would ask them, hey, did you know that you were Dr. Roseann’s hero? They wouldn’t be like, yeah, of course, I know, I was her hero. They’re just people who are living their lives. And the impact that they have on you is incredible. And so it always just reminds me to be the kind of person that’s worthy of being someone else’s hero. Because who knows who’s looking up to me.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:16:13  

I say this all the time, you can never go wrong by doing the right thing. And I try to go out of my way to be kind to people because I’ve learned that people can look like it’s all okay. But on the inside, it’s hard. And so I have just been struck by how many people that have said to me that I am so touched by you, that you went and did this. And in my mastermind, the first year, I got the Go-Giver award. And I was like, this is amazing, I got the nicest person award, really and I was like, oh, my God, that’s so awesome. You know what I mean? So I also got the mover and shaker award, but we do have an impact on people. So go out of your way to be kind to people, oh, my God, people are so distressed right now. And it has such a ripple effect. And you have that power.

 

Richard Matthews  1:17:09  

Absolutely, so, as we wrap up the interview, I want to talk about one more thing, which is your guiding principles. One of the things that make heroes heroic, is that they live by a code. For instance, Batman never kills his enemies, he only ever puts them in Arkham Asylum. So as we wrap up, I want to talk about the top one or two principles that you live your life by, maybe something you wish you knew when you first started out on your own hero’s journey.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:17:34  

I’m going to tell you that I am very blessed with having to know about things like having a sense of divine downloads. And so I have always had just a purposeful, kind of like, yeah, that’s just the way it is. So I would say one of my guiding principles is if it’s not a hell, yes, it’s a hell no. And I think that’s one of the things that entrepreneurs really struggle with, like, everything’s an opportunity. Everything is made to please people. 

 

Richard Matthews  1:18:11  

I struggled with that a lot.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:18:12  

Yeah. And I’m very blessed because my parents are really kind of like, again, when you parent your kids to be independent, they really get a strong sense of self. And so that is really important. And I think I’ve really come to love what I said that you can never go wrong by doing the right thing. And I’ve really come to a vow to value integrity, as the most important thing for the people in my life. And the team members I have, it’s a deal-breaker in the interview process, like how do people describe integrity, and it’s just so, so important. And when you’re a leader, and you have a business, there are times when you get burned by people, and so I only have people with high integrity in my life. And so it all starts with are you doing the right thing? And you’re gonna magnetize those people to you. So those are my guiding principles. And you’ll often hear me say both of those things multiple times in a day.

 

Richard Matthews  1:19:21  

The mental picture I have for integrity is just like straight out of the dictionary definition. Integrity is something that you can lean on and it stays there. Right like your walls, in your house, your chairs, you sit on the chair, it has integrity, if it stays a chair when you sit on it. Memory foam mattresses don’t have integrity, they sink in, which is good if you’re sleeping but not if you’re talking about integrity.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:19:44  

I love memory foam mattresses. 

 

Richard Matthews  1:19:45  

Yeah, they’re nice when you’re sleeping on them. So anyway, in my head. I was like, I want to be the kind of person that someone else can always lean on and can trust to be there. And do what you say you’re going to do. You’re going to be there when you say you are going to be there and Excuse My French when the shit goes down, they know who to call.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:20:03  

Absolutely, and on the entrepreneur journey, you’re an entrepreneur it means you’re a leader, right? And so as you shift as you grow, as you bring wealth, as you have success and notoriety, you’re gonna see change around you. And sometimes people can’t handle that. And you wish them well, you give them good intentions and blessings, and you move on, because always remember, it’s about them and not you. And so that’s been one of the hardest things. And that’s why I really am like, moved in a completely different direction. Not that I didn’t have that change component. There are so many components to it, but it’s important. Integrity is a really important thing. When I think of the best people in my life. They just have super high integrity there. They say what they do exactly what it is, and they’re so trustworthy. Like, they’re just good people, like, who can you call at midnight? You know what I’m saying? They’re that kind of people because I’m the person that you call when you want to bury a body. I’m that friend. And I only want those kinds of people in my life. I’m not recommending you kill anybody. But you know what I’m saying?

 

Richard Matthews  1:21:22  

Yeah, but you know who to call, right, you know who to call when you need to bury a body. So, I think that’s a great place to wrap the interview. But before we do that, I do finish every one of my interviews with a simple challenge. I call it the hero’s challenge. And I do this mostly as a selfish thing to help get access to stories I might not find otherwise because not everyone is out doing the podcast rounds. So my question is simple. Do you have someone in your life or in your network that you think has a cool entrepreneurial story? Who are they? First names are fine and why do you think they should come to share their story on our show? First person that comes to mind for you?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:21:59  

Oh, my girlfriend, Shelly. So she’s Shelly Gawith. She is from New Zealand. I’m going to introduce you to her. And I just think she’s a hero because at 27 she had 500 employees in the financial industry. And she fell apart physically. I’ll let you tell her story, but she could only stay awake 10 minutes a day. And her doctors told her parents, we don’t know what’s wrong with her, but she’s probably gonna die, you’re just gonna have to let her go. And they were like, this is ridiculous. So fast forward, she is the picture of health. She said that’s not okay. And she became a functional nutritionist in a country where integrative nutrition is almost like a new concept for them. And she changed her whole life and her whole career. And she’s an amazing entrepreneur. She’s really cool, she really took a dark time, and not only healed herself, but made a career out of it.

 

Richard Matthews  1:23:09  

That’d be awesome. I look forward to an introduction. Maybe she’ll say yes. And come on the show. 

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:23:13  

Oh, she’ll say yes, she’s my bestie. 

 

Richard Matthews  1:23:16  

Not everyone does. Sometimes they’re like, yeah, they’re not.

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:23:19  

My friends are the kind of friends, don’t forget my friends, I just have to ask, and they say, of course, like, they’re just that kind of friend.

 

Richard Matthews  1:23:29  

So in comic books, there’s always the crowd of people who are at the end cheering and clapping for the acts of heroism. So our analogous to that on this show is to find out where can people light up the bat signal so to speak, and get you to come in and help them with either their mental health or their children’s mental health or maybe if they want to try out some of the matrix stuff you were talking about with the brand

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:23:52  

 Neurofeedback.

 

Richard Matthews  1:23:53  

Neurofeedback, I’ll get the name eventually, but Neurofeedback, where can they go if they want to find out more about you more about those services? And who are the right types of people to reach out to and ask for your help?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:24:02  

Yeah, so the right type of people, we’ll start with that. So you can be somebody who just wants to optimize your brain and body. You can be somebody who has a clinical issue like OCD, and this can be you or your kid, anxiety, depression, PANS, PANDAS, whatever’s going on. And you want to avoid medication or you know, it’s not working and you really want to change the trajectory of your child’s life. This is a solution that is so ridiculously effective in tens of thousands of studies. So that’s who it is, and I love my special needs parents. So where can you find me? DrRoseann, and that’s DR ROSEANN, no E at the end. And that’s dot com. That’s on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook. I’m Roseann Capanna-Hodge

, but you can find me there and I also have an awesome community for parents called Raising Successful Kids, and you can go to GetUnstuck Program.com for that, but it’s all on my website, you can go to DrRoseanne.com, it’s all there.

 

Richard Matthews  1:25:10  

So if you are in that space especially if you’re interested like I am and some of the peak performance stuff, I’m going to be following you a little bit to learn more about that. But if you’re listening to this, and you’re in that space, definitely take the time to reach out to Roseann. And again, thank you so much for coming on today. It’s been a pleasure hearing your story and getting to chat with you a little bit about all the stuff that you do. So again, thank you very much for coming on today. And do you have any final words of wisdom for my audience before I hit this stop record button?

 

Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge  1:25:37  

Yeah, I mean, I say It’s Going To Be OK to everybody for a reason. So if you’re struggling, just know it’s going to be OK. Look to natural solutions to change your own mental health or your child’s mental health, and you will notice a difference quickly. 

 

Richard Matthews  1:25:53  

 

Awesome. Thank you so much for coming on again.