Sheila Sapp 0:00
Self esteem, self competence, self competence, and resiliency and perseverance, are tools that parents can equip their children with, starting from birth on. And, and when you think about it, if you don’t feel good about yourself, or if you don’t have strong self competence, or believe in your competence, or be able to problem solve, and to be resilient, because as you make the journey or whatever you want to do in life, there are going to be some setbacks, there are going to be some COVID-19 and other things that are going to affect your life. So you need to know how to bounce back. You need to learn how the problem solve and of course, you need to persevere.
Richard Matthews 0:41
Heroes are an inspiring group of people, every one of them from the larger than life comic book heroes you see on the big silver screen, the everyday heroes that let us live the privileged lives we do every hero has a story to tell from the doctor saving lives at your local hospital, to the war veteran down the street, who risked his life for our freedom to the police officers and the firefighters who risked their safety to ensure ours every hero is special and every story worth telling. But there was one class of heroes that I think is often ignored the entrepreneur, the creator, the producer, the ones who look at the problems in this world and think to themselves, you know what I can fix that I can help people I can make a difference. And they go out and do exactly that by creating a new product or introducing a new service. Some go on to change the world. Others make a world of difference to their customers. Welcome to the heroes show. Join us as we pull back the masks on the world’s finest hero preneurs and learn the secrets to their powers their success and their influence. So you can use those secrets to attract more sales, make more money and experience more freedom in your business. I’m your host, Richard Matthews and we are on in 3…2…1…
Hello and welcome back to the Hero Show. My name is Richard Matthews. And today I am live on the line with Sheila Sapp, Sheila, are you there?
Sheila Sapp 1:43
Yes, I am. And happy to be here. Awesome. So
Richard Matthews 1:46
glad to have you here. We were chatting before we got on. You said you’re coming in from Georgia. Is that right?
Sheila Sapp 1:51
Yes. What the great little city of Woodbine Georgia.
Richard Matthews 1:56
Nice. Good Southern Cooking out there. And nice weather.
Sheila Sapp 2:00
Yes. As a matter of fact, before coming for this interview, I was out walking in the Little Theater park. I did. I tried to do that every morning. So it is great.
Richard Matthews 2:11
That’s cool, yeah, so for those of you in our audience who’ve been following along with my wife and I journey, we are now up in Sarasota, Florida. So we’re getting closer to Georgia, maybe if, you know, after the election, and the Coronavirus stuff will actually get to go up the East Coast a little bit this this year. So we’ll see maybe we’ll have to wait till next year to actually get up there. But I do really look forward to getting to see Georgia the Carolinas all that kind of stuff. I hear it’s beautiful. But we haven’t got to go yet. Yes, should be cool. So what I want to do real quick for our audience who may or may not know you is go through a brief some brief stuff here from your bio. So Sheila is a former elementary principal assistant principal instructional supervisor, reading specialist, curriculum director and classroom teacher with over 40 years of experience in education. And you are currently the owner and founder of Sheila E cares, educational consulting and Services LLC. And your primary focus is on your consulting businesses to encourage, guide and empower everyone to reach their full potential and attain their life goals. So with that, that brief introduction to why don’t we start off talking about what it is that you do? What you’re known for, and who you help what you help them with that kind of thing.
Sheila Sapp 3:27
What I’m really known for is I am an encourager. So if I had a costume, I would have a big E right there in the center. I enjoy encouraging people regardless of their age, their walks in life, to reach their full potential. And I became an elementary principal, because I just had a genuine love for not only children and people, but the willingness to just help and to encourage others. Like I was encouraged when I was young.
Richard Matthews 4:10
That’s awesome. So what we generally do that to start off the show is to find out your origin story, right? And that is to figure out how you know, every good comic book hero has an origin story. That’s the thing that made them into the hero that they are today. We want to hear that story. Were you born a hero? Or were you bit by a radioactive spider that made you want to get into the educational consulting space? Where did you start in a job and sort of make a transition into becoming an entrepreneur later in life? What was what was your story?
Sheila Sapp 4:39
Well, I really have to start back many years ago. I’m originally from New Jersey, and I’m the oldest of six. So you can imagine and as a young child, I went to an elementary school that was predominantly white and I, I remember it when I started in kindergarten in first grade, that I didn’t have many friends in school, although, you know, I was very outgoing around the neighborhood. And where I grew up the street was all black. But I did have people from different cultures that lived on the outskirts of the street that I grew up on. So when I was in second grade, I remember being the only black child in the class. And during recess time, no one ever asked me to play or join with them, and jumping rope or other games that we played in school yard. So I spent my recess time just watching everyone, and leaning up against the fence. And that was a daily routine. And one day, a student in my class, and her name was Karen and she’s Polish American, came up and asked me to play. And I was just blown by that. Because up to that point, all I know, any talking to me was about my skin color. My hair, you know, my lips? Why were they thick? And you know, when you’re young, you don’t understand those questions. So you begin to think that something’s wrong with you. But my life changed when Karen asked me to play with her, and we became friends. So we every recess, we played together, and we began to talk in school, and I even got the opportunity to go over to her house, and meet her parents, and her brother. And we were friends all through second grade. And then in third grade, we were friends, until I lost her due to a tragic accident, she was hit and killed by the train. And also her brother who was trying to help her, both of them died. But it took me a long time to get over that. But I never forgot the lesson that I learned that there are people who may be white, that don’t look at your skin color, or you know, what you’re you look like whether your hair is different, or your lips are different. And with that, it made me promise that whenever I had the opportunity, and whatever I did, to give that message to others. And so consequently, because I love learning, I became a teacher. And I made it a point to spread. And to share my story about Karen with the students in my building. And I was a stickler for name calling. You did not call anyone a name other than what their name actually was. So, and I try to live with that example. So that when they looked at me, I want them to realize that I was expecting and I cared for them and love them for who they were, and not how they looked on the outside. You know whether they were short, fat, skinny, it didn’t matter. I love them because of who they were. So that’s the origin of my story. And, and that’s why I have become the person who I am. And Karen, set me on that that path.
Richard Matthews 9:02
That’s awesome. So how did how did that transition go from a teacher to becoming a consultant?
Sheila Sapp 9:09
Well, as I said, I am an encourager, and I retired in June 15 of 2017. So I have been a retiree for three years. And I still have my passion, for healthy and for encouraging. And that’s how I really got into consulting full time. And I do want to say that surely E cares. The concept of it has been around for a long time. But it wasn’t until I retired, that I could actually bring it to fruition. When you work as an administrator and all of the different things that you’ve named that God has given me the opportunity to do you know, you have to give 200% being an administrator is a all day, every day job. So I really didn’t have that much time to put into the consulting aspect, I was able to author, three books. And I at this time is waiting for a fourth book to be published. So, and of course, now that I’m getting into consulting, and just as I was starting to get my feet wet, COVID appeared. Yeah. And so that’s put on a different challenge. But I am working through that. And it is through my perseverance, and my ability to adapt, and to try to stay positive, and seeking help from others that I’ve been able to continue. So essentially, I’ve had to re design myself. And, re equip myself with some skills, social media, was not an is not a strong point. But it’s something that I’m working on. And doing this interview is a part of that. never in my wildest dreams, did I ever think that I would be doing a live interview. So this is just one step. And one challenge that I am working on accomplishing, and continuing to pursue social media and improve.
Richard Matthews 11:55
That’s awesome. So my my next question for you then is, you know, as you’ve sort of gotten into this consulting business, and getting getting that going, who have you sort of discovered is your like your primary clientele that you you work with now?
Sheila Sapp 12:12
Right now, the primary clientele that I am reaching out to are parents, looking at people who are currently homeschooling, or virtual schooling, or just, you know, maybe their child or children are attending school in person, and they are working with their children at home, I am really focused on trying to get parents to remember and to remain their child’s first teacher, I don’t think parents realize the critical importance and value that they have as their child’s first teacher. I also, as I mentioned earlier, I like to encourage and help people reach their full potential. So another audience, that I am reaching out to our teachers, and leaders, you know, I want everyone to reach their full potential in what ever they are striving to do, or to be. And I mentioned that I have written the fourth book, and I devote two chapters on power tools. I believe that self esteem, self competence, self competence, and resiliency and perseverance, are tools that parents can equip their children with, starting from birth on. And, and when you think about it, if you don’t feel good about yourself, or if you don’t have strong self competence, or believe in your competence, or be able to problem solve, and to be resilient, because as you make the journey or whatever you want to do in life, there are going to be some setbacks, there are going to be some COVID-19 and other things that are going to affect your life. So you need to know how to bounce back. You need to learn how the problem solve and of course, you need to persevere. And it doesn’t matter. The gifts that you have your talents and your intelligence, but if you don’t feel good about who you are, and those gifts and talents that you have been gifted with, through God, that it doesn’t, it doesn’t matter. So that is something else that through my consulting business and my books that I am promoting for parents and other individuals who want to fulfill and realize their full potential, regardless of whatever it is that they want to acquire whatever their goals are in life.
Richard Matthews 15:22
Awesome. So, with sort of that in mind, I’m going to talk about how you have, you know, how how your skills have sort of developed to help people accomplish those goals. So, we talked on the show about superpowers, right, every iconic hero has their superpower, whether that’s a fancy flying suit made by genius intellect, or the ability to call down Thunder from the sky. In the real world, heroes what I call a zone of genius, which is either a skill or a set of skills that you were born with, or you developed over your career, that’s really energized, all the other skills, right, it connects everything together. And this superpower is really what sets you apart and allows you to help the people that you’re working with, help them slay the villains in their life, and come out on top in their journey. So with that sort of framing, what do you think your superpower is?
Sheila Sapp 16:07
Well, I already told you that my unicorn would have a big E on it. But as far as my superpower, I think it is my creativity and the ability to look at something and think of creative and different ways to present or to do something. And you can imagine with consulting, as you meet different people, then and they share with you what their concerns are, or what they’re looking for, you are going to have to have the ability to create and think of, and I call it and this might be another power out of box thinking to come up with a different way to help them accomplish their goal. Or if you’re presenting before a group of people, or some children, how you can present it in such a way that they will be able to understand what you’re talking about, and get some meaning from it. So I would say basically, those are the two tools that I’ve been gifted with. And also, as far as a person, a human being, I have always been a very kind person, even though I may not have been treated kindly. I have always been kind, and very sincere. And I feel that if you ask anyone about me, that they can say that I’ve always been a very sincere person, and a kind person, even to the point where some people have said, you know, you are too kind. And, and I really feel that you really can’t be too kind. But there are some people who take advantage of kindness, and sometimes see being kind as a weakness, and not a strength, to me is a strength. And when you’re in a consulting business, it is important that you are not only kind, but you have to be very sincere and very accepting. And you can’t be judgmental. And you’ll have to accept people as they are, and hopefully be able to help them become better and improve versions of themselves.
Richard Matthews 18:49
Yeah, you have to be able to accept some accept someone where they are how they are right now. So you can help them move to the next stage that they want. Right that’s true
Sheila Sapp 18:56
to help them move up and level up.
Richard Matthews 18:59
One of one of the things that I’ve talked about with my clients before is this, the idea that like when you’re working on, on anything that involves persuasion, right, which is, you know, working, getting someone to help change their actions, which a lot of what consulting is is like, hey, you’re here, you want to get here, here’s your steps to get there. And you have to persuade them to take those actions. So it’s the type of persuasion. Anytime you’re working with persuasion, you can’t go in to that discussion with like, hey, the way you’re doing it is wrong, or stupid, or dumb, or anything like that. And you should do it this way. My way is better, right? Like you can’t approach it that way. And so a lot of times you have to learn how to be kind and how to invite them into explore new opportunities, right and see what those might look like and how they might affect their lives.
Sheila Sapp 19:45
And also, in addition to that, when you’re working with other people, you can’t go in like you have all all of the answers. You have to incorporate their thoughts and their ideas and As you know, I don’t start off by telling people everything that I have done in my past life. Because I’m always very conscious of not putting people off. Now, if they ask, I will share some of the things that I have done. But that’s not where I start, I try to be very honest and open. But also, I am very humble. So and everyone has a different starting point. And everyone has a different story in different gifts. And I find that I learned something, regardless of who they are, and where they are in their walk of life from everyone. And so that’s one of my goals is to learn from everyone that I am associated with. And hopefully, they will learn some things from me. But by no means, am I the, the expert, because I am always willing to learn something new.
Richard Matthews 21:10
Absolutely. Right. And learning how to how to it was the longer I have, like grown in my business, the more I realized, like, the more you learn, the more you realize you don’t know.
Sheila Sapp 21:22
That’s true. So true.
Richard Matthews 21:25
Yeah. So the flip side, then of every superpower is the fatal flaw, right? So let’s just like every Superman has his kryptonite, or Wonder Woman can’t remove her bracelets of victory without going mad, you probably have a flaw that’s held you back in your business, right? Something that you’ve struggled with, for me, it was a couple of things like perfectionism, that kept me from shipping or lack of self care that, you know, let my clients walk all over me. Instead of you know, actually like taking care of yourself. That’s, you know, that’s sort of that flipside of the weakness to kindness that you’re talking about is sometimes you’ll let people walk all over you, or take advantage of you. But I think more important than what the flaw is, is how have you worked to either rectify that, or overcome it or go around it so you can keep growing your business, and hopefully sharing that will help some of our audience learn a little bit from your experience?
Sheila Sapp 22:12
Well, it’s so funny, we do have one flaw in common, that’s being a perfectionist. And by that, it’s made me not be really comfortable with doing videos, or doing live presentations, because I’ve always been afraid to, you know, make a mistake, or say the wrong word. And, you know, I just focus on trying to get everything perfect. But then I realized that, you know, I am human, and I’m going to make mistakes. And you know, even when you watch people on TV, the the commentators, they make mistakes from time to time. So that has one thing that I really have to fight with. Because, you know, part of this business, and there are a zillion consultants is that you have to make yourself be present. And there’s something that they call brand awareness. So if you want people to be aware of you and who you are, then you’re going to have to present yourself and do the videos, and do the live interviews, and do those live presentations on Facebook, which I did one this morning. It’s the first one in a long time, but I decided I’m going to do it something else that I have to fight with is patience. And I find that with social media being so new that I expect, or sometimes I want to be able to learn and do everything right away. And sometimes it can be frustrating when you try a new app, or you try a new media, and you don’t get it the first time or the second time. So I’m working on that. And trying to talk to myself and say, okay, Sheila, let’s take our time and be patient. And even with this business, you know, as I told you, I retired three years ago, and so really, I am really just starting to get my feet on the ground, and to get my business off the ground. And I have to be patient, it is not going to happen overnight. And probably the third thing that I really fight is you know, when I look at Facebook and I see people who seem to be very comfortable, or I watch some other video, or Facebook presentations. And hey, this is such and such. And I’ve done this, and they just look so at ease with what they’re doing, and so I have to be mindful that I have to be authentic. And be true to who I am, that I can’t be like, the other people that I see, or try to model what I do, the way they do it. So one of the things that I’m also working on is finding my own voice, my own audience, and zeroing in on that, because the only person that I can be is me. And I cannot model myself after anyone else. And if it’s going to take time for this business to grow, and for people to accept me for who I am, then I have to be patient, and persevere and understand and accept that it’s going to take time. But yeah, it’s going to be so important for me to be authentic, and be real.
Richard Matthews 26:24
I can relate to all three of those points, right with the like learning to be authentic, is it’s one of those things that like, you see, you see all the people who are successful in whatever space you’re in, you’re like, oh, maybe I should be like them. Or maybe I should do what they’re doing. And you realize that like, the thing that you need to be successful is you need to learn how to turn you up, right how to be, right you at the next level. And that’s a hard thing to do. It’s hard to accept that people, like there’s people out there who need to hear your story and hear your perspective, and are going to connect with the way that you teach and the way that you talk. And when you’re not doing that, you’re not going to find have that connection. So that’s it’s a hard, hard skill to learn, I’m still struggling with that myself, even though I you know, run a podcast like this and do all those things. And the patience one it was huge. And I remember when I started my business, you know, 12 years ago now, I was you know, you had given that thought of like, you know, I’m going to be able to accomplish so much this next year, right? or in the next two years. And then you know, a year goes by in two years go by in three years go by and four years go by, and you’re still not like where you thought you were going to be at the end of first the first year. And it can be discouraging. But you realize that like the the path to your success is not one of those like straight upward curves, you have all sorts of things to learn, it goes up and down, and it goes all over the place. And it’s it’s the success is over the long term, right? It’s what what you can do in 10 years, and in 15 years. That’s impressive. It’s not you know, the all the stories you hear of, you know, people having overnight success is just not true right there. You’re you might see just the last portion of their journey. But you didn’t see the 10 years of prep they put into it. And all the work that they they did. And so a lot of the the overnight success stuff just isn’t true. And I think it does a disservice to people who are getting started as entrepreneurs to think that it’s going to be easy and quick to get where you want to go. And it just isn’t the case.
Sheila Sapp 28:25
Yes, that’s so true. So true.
Richard Matthews 28:29
Yeah. And the perfectionism thing, I totally feel you. They’re my that’s like, that’s my big, my big thing. And I know like for me, the big changeover came when I had a mentor of mine. She was like the perfectionism is the lowest standard you can hold yourself to, because it doesn’t exist. So you’re holding yourself to nothing. If you’re saying I’m learning, it’s got to be perfect. And she’s like, so you have to pick something that actually has a measurable value, and judge yourself there instead of perfectionism. Because perfection doesn’t exist, you can’t have it. So it’s not, it’s the lowest standard you could possibly have. And that was like, it was a mental major mental shift for me to realize, okay, so if it’s not perfect isn’t what I’m looking for, what am I looking for? And it’s like, for me, it was learning to focus on like, what’s the end result I want to get for my client, right? And what do I need in order to get that result? And it’s always I’ve got that ready to go, then you can ship?
Sheila Sapp 29:24
And you know, I think part of that perfection is in and that fear is you know, I have spent the majority of my life around children. I feel very comfortable with children. And I think part of it is a concern about making the mistake in front of my peers, you know, fearing what my peers will say about me, if they will criticize me, and I think that led into part of my perfectionism. You know No one wants to appear like they don’t know what they’re talking about, or no one wants to be seen making mistake. But as I said, that’s something that I have been working on. And you’re right. Perfection is not something that’s obtainable. And is really, as you said, not something to really strive for. So right now, I am looking at where I started, like, two years ago, and where I am now. And I see that I have improved. So I’m just going to look at where I am, and how my business progressing as I become more visible and more skilled at and in what I’m doing. So that’s what I’m striving for.
Richard Matthews 30:58
Absolutely. So I’m gonna talk a little bit about your common enemy, right? So every superhero has an arch nemesis, right? It’s the thing they’re constantly to fight against. In their world and the world of business, it takes on many forms. But generally speaking, we put in the context of your clients, right, the people that you’re helping in your consulting practice, right, and it’s a mindset, or it’s a flaw that you constantly have to fight to overcome, so that you can help them get the results they came to you for. Right. And like, if you had your magic wand, right at the beginning of the relationship, as soon as they hired you, you could just pop him on the head and make that mindset go away. What is that arch nemesis that you constantly have to fight against in your world?
Sheila Sapp 31:34
Well, in my world, I would say the biggest thing that I fight against is self esteem. And, as I said to you that, you know, you have to feel good about yourself. And a lot of the people that I meet, don’t feel good about themselves, and are not satisfied with where they are, and they want to be better. And even for myself, you know, I would love to be a top notch person in social media, and really be skillful in technology, and be knowledgeable about a lot of that, but I am not. And I have learned some things. So that’s what I have to that’s a flaw that I have to fight against. And also a flaw that I see in other people. Because I you know, I think sometimes we have the tendency to look at others. And as I mentioned earlier, at what they’re doing, and we want to be that way too or to do what they’re doing. And something another flaw is being judgmental. You know, I do not want to judge people for where they are, and what they’re doing. And I have to be open minded at all times, with people that I meet, their their situations, their story, and their walk. Because if I’m not open minded about things, then I feel that that will affect me, as a consultant, and how open I can be to what their needs are, to understand what their needs are. And it would probably stunt my ability to really be of service to them, and to help them and to plan activities or presentations, or workshops, or give seminars, or even speak as a speaker, to help them level up and to further develop their skills or to improve their mindsets. So those flaws or our struggles that I think not only other people have, but I have to be if there’s a kryptonite that I have to be on the lookout for for myself, too.
Richard Matthews 34:19
Yeah, so like learning how to help help your clients overcome the same self esteem issues that you deal with in your business.
Sheila Sapp 34:25
Richard Matthews 34:27
Yeah, makes a lot of sense. So the flip side of that of the common enemy is your driving force, right? It’s what you fight for. Just like Spider Man fights to save New York or Batman fights to save Gotham or Google fights to index and categorize all the world’s information. What is it you fight for with your business? What is your mission, so to speak?
Sheila Sapp 34:45
Well, I mentioned I give you a little idea what my mission is earlier. But one of the things that I fight for is acceptance. And I fight for people to use really use whatever gifts and talents they have. And to use it to the best of their ability. So my mission is to help everyone reach their full potential, and to be the best that they can be, regardless of who they are, and what they are doing in life. And also, and I share with you my story about Karen, another mission that I have is to promote the acceptance of differences, whether it be cultural differences, and to be accepting of people who may face challenges, mentally, or physically. You know, this world is made up of so many people, and we gain so much from others. So, if we can be accepting of diversity, and have that willingness to work with people, regardless of who they are, and where they are. I think that’s probably one of the big biggest things that would just help this world in general. And so that’s one of my, my missions.
Richard Matthews 36:39
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, there are we’ve definitely seen a lot of political upheaval over not accepting political or accepting diversity this year, this year, whether or not it’s, you know, racial tensions or political tensions and just understanding that, hey, you know, doesn’t matter what you look like or what you believe in, we can still be neighbors and be cordial with each other and learn to love and accept each other as neighbors.
Sheila Sapp 37:05
Right? And work together. Yeah, work together
Richard Matthews 37:08
work together to make to make our country and our world a better place. So I agree with you there.
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So my next question for you then is about your own personal heroes. Right? So every every hero has their mentors, right? Frodo had Gandalf Luke had Obi Wan Kenobi Robert Kiyosaki had his rich dad, Spider Man even had Uncle Ben. Right. So who were some of your heroes? Were they real life mentors, speakers or authors, maybe peers who were a couple years ahead of you, and how important were they what you’ve accomplished so far in your business?
Sheila Sapp 39:08
Well, I have several heroes. And one I want to mention, as I told you, I’m originally from New Jersey. And when I moved to Georgia, in 1979, I started teaching during 1986 in the Camden County school system, and there was an individual. Her name was Dr. Liz Jordan. And I just remember how helpful she was to me as a new principal in a new school system in a new area. Not only was she a great mentor, but she was a very strong Christian woman. And I and I’ll never forget all the conversations we had and and how I would meet with her from time to time in her office. And she always, always encouraged not only me, but other people, she was well known. And we lost her past nine years ago, but I still think about her. And she was my, my hero, and my mentor. And the person that I also want to mention to you, is someone who is a former parent of mine, and her name is Mrs. Carleeka Basnight-Menendez, yes, all of that, as she says, she is an empowerment coach. And to see where she has come from, from where she started, we cross paths again. And she has been very helpful to me, she has encouraged me, she’s recently become an author, which will be published soon. Her book is titled, The AVE. And she and I would recommend it to anyone who is starting their business, she talks about her story, and where she started in her beginning, and she gives you tips and techniques for starting your business, and brand awareness. So I’m going to highly recommend that her book be read, and she is my hero. And, and I know that you always ask not only who our hero is, but I would love to have you interview her. And I feel that her story would really motivate others. And one of the things that she says all the time is, you know, when you change your perspective, you can change your world. And it’s so true. When you look at your see yourself differently. It does change the world. So I would love to have you interview her on your show.
Richard Matthews 42:24
Awesome. Yeah, so we’ll have to, uh, well, you know, we got the hero’s challenge out of the way before we even got to it. That’s cool. And it’s always fun when you when you meet people in your life that are, you know, that really help you see where you could go see what the potential is and help you move forward. So that’s a it’s a cool story. So I guess my last question for you then is about your guiding principles, right? One of the things that makes heroes heroic is that they live by a code. For instance, Batman never kills his enemies, he only ever put them in Arkham Asylum. So as we wrap up the interview, when I talk about the top one, maybe two principles you use in your life regularly, maybe something you wish you’d known when he first started out as a business person.
Sheila Sapp 43:03
Well, there are really two guiding principles. And one I knew earlier, but and it was always something that I did in the back of my mind. And I guess you could call it the golden rule, but as to treat others the way you want to be treated, even though they may not treat you with kindness. And that’s something that I have always done. And it’s still a guiding principle for me with my business. And the other is to do what is always right. And, you know, sometimes, you know, as I mentioned, and this ties in with the first principle that I gave, you know, sometimes it’s hard when people are ugly to you, or they do things or say things that hurt for you to do what’s right. So when you hear that they’re having hard times, or they’re in need, then regardless of the way they have treated you, then you follow your spirit. And if you’re led to pray for them, or to call for them, or to help them financially, then you do it. You always do what is right, regardless of the situation. Or where you are, or the event or the circumstance. You do. What is right. And I try to spend time following my spirit and doing what my Spirit tells me to do. And if you do what is right, you can’t go wrong.
Richard Matthews 44:49
Yeah, and you know, they say integrity is doing what’s right even when no one’s looking. Right. So it’s it’s all the time. It’s a good, good way to live your life. So, since we already got the hero’s challenge out of the way, we’ll reach out afterwards see if we can get an introduction her and get her on the show. The we have have are in comic books, there’s always the send off, right? The it’s the crowd of people who are cheering and clapping, clapping for their acts of heroism. So as we close, I want to know where people can find you, right? Where can they light up the bat signal, so to speak, and say, Hey, Sheila, I need your help. And I think more importantly than where they can go to do that is who are the right types of people to reach out and say and ask for that help?
Sheila Sapp 45:32
Well, the right type of people are people who are wanting to be a better version of themselves. People who are wanting to enlist the help of a consultant, whether it be regarding education, parents who wants to do a better job being their child’s first teacher, teachers, leaders. For instance, I can talk with principals, aspiring principals, I can talk with business managers, and also you young people who are embarking on their life, and they’re not quite sure what they want to do. I have some stories that I can share with them. And I am you know, I have a website. And I don’t know if you want me to give that. But I have a website. It’s www dot, can I give it?
Richard Matthews 46:44
Yeah, please do.
Sheila Sapp 46:47
It’s okay. All right, www dot sheilaecares, that’s all together lowercase.com. And I am in the process of having it redesigned, but it’s still available. And also, I’m on Facebook, just Sheila Sapp. And if they’re interested in emailing me, my email address is firstname.lastname@example.org, all lowercase. And if they visit my website, they will see a list of services and presentations than I am available to give. And of course, with COVID-19 I am doing everything via Zoom. I also offer free consulting chats they are 30 minutes. And in that way, if they want to have a chat, we can talk and I can learn more about them. And tell them how I can help them and share with them some more about me and my services. Cool. Well, that’s what I have available.
Richard Matthews 47:58
right now, It’s sheilaecares.com. And will definitely if you’re if you’re in that space, and you’re looking to if you’re homeschooling your kids, you’re you know, a teacher working, working with kids definitely takes time to reach out to Sheila. And, again, Sheila, thank you so much for coming on the show today. Really appreciate your time. Is there any final words of wisdom you want to give to our audience before I hit this stop record button?
Sheila Sapp 48:22
Well, my daughter says I talked too much, but the words that is my final words of wisdom on to be authentic. Be sincere. and be yourself. And if you’re authentic, sincere, and if you be yourself, you can’t go wrong.
Richard Matthews 48:47
Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming on today, Sheila. I really Appreaciate it.
Sheila Sapp 48:51
And thank you I really have enjoyed the interview. And I hope you get to come to Georgia, and maybe stop by Woodbine. We have some sights here too.
Richard Matthews 49:04
We’ll we’ll see what we can do when we get up the coast. But again, thank you for coming out today.