Episode 107 – Roman Mironov

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Roman Mironov 0:00
Now there are more general tip is to actually work on specific goals, improving a relationship or forgetting about a case of infidelity, stopping being jealous in a relationship, but doing it while keeping a very general goal in mind. So whatever we focus on with a client, just remember to make sure they’re happy, focus on helping them feel less stressed, and just be happy – just be happier in life in general. I guess that’s the general goal. So the first one is to make sure the client feels better after every session and help them feel less stressed out and happier in general.

Richard Matthews 0:55
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Richard Matthews 1:48
Hello and welcome back to The HERO Show. My name is Richard Matthews and I live on the line today with Roman Mironov. Roman, are you there?

Roman Mironov 1:57
I am. Hello Hello Richard. Thanks for having me.

Richard Matthews 2:01
Awesome. So glad to have you here. Where are you joining us today? Where are you coming in from?

Roman Mironov 2:06
Toronto, Canada.

Richard Matthews 2:08
Toronto, Canada. One of my best friends lives up in Toronto, Canada. She does a lot of – We do a lot of work together on a lot of clients. So anyway, that’s one of the places I’m looking forward to visiting. For those of you who are following along with our travels, we are still hunkering down in Florida for our coronavirus situation. We were supposed to be going up the East Coast and hopefully hitting Toronto this winter. But that’s probably not going to happen. So opt to come visit Toronto some other time. Anyways, what I want to do real quick is introduce you so our guests – our listeners who don’t know who you are can get an idea and then we’ll dive into your … So Roman is a relationship coach and he helps clients create awesome and very enviable relationships, business in 2005 within half a year of getting your MA degree. And anyways, you are – currently you do relationship coaching is that correct?

Roman Mironov 3:05
That is correct.

Richard Matthews 3:07
So, for our listeners, why don’t you start off with what it is that you’re known for. So what is it that you actually do for people how you help them who your ideal clients are? Tell us a little about what your business is like now and then we’ll get into your story.

Roman Mironov 3:22
Okay. My ideal clients are committed people who want to see changes in their relationships, changes for good. And those are people who have been struggling with their relationships and they’ve come to a realization that they no longer know how to proceed, how to make the improvements.

Richard Matthews 3:47
Business relationships, so you have a specific subset of relationships that you work on, or is it a general any type of relationship in your life?

Roman Mironov 3:54
You see, I focus on romantic relationships, mostly. But when a client comes to me, originally with a request and with a regard to their relationship, we often discover a lot of other areas that I can help them with. And this could also spill over into business relationships or even health. Things like that.

Richard Matthews 4:18
Makes a lot of sense. So, what I want to get into then is your origin story. We talk on this show all the time, every good comic book hero has an origin story. It’s the thing that made them into the hero they are today. We want to hear that story. Were you born a hero? Were you bit by a radioactive spider that turns you into a relationship coach? Or did you start into a job and eventually move into becoming an entrepreneur? I basically want to find out how you got into the business of relationship coaching. How did that start for you?

Roman Mironov 4:48
I used to be a translator. I actually did that for 14 years. And I wasn’t in a very different area compared to coaching. So, around 2014, I went through a painful divorce. So I was terrible with my wife. I was a gentleman, but I did not really know how to be a man in the relationship. So I treated her as a man, a logical man, and in other words, so we got a divorce. And that was quite painful because I actually thought that she was the one, she was the person that I was supposed to live with my entire life. And that’s one thing that makes it possible for me to relate to people because when they come to me as clients, I know how they feel because they feel so much pain. And what I did after my divorce, I actually went through a few years of a lot of struggle. Because I didn’t know anything about women. I had to put myself out there and learn, and more and more importantly, actually, practice everything that I learned. So I was going out a lot, approaching women a lot, doing a lot of dating, doing a lot of relationships. And then I realized that now I have so much – not so much – but I have quite a lot of knowledge in this area. And I can also share this with people. So these two things, they basically came together and that’s how I ended up being a coach.

Richard Matthews 6:38
Awesome. So it was one of those transformational moments where you go through something painful in your life, and it puts you on a new journey to actually start getting into this. So, how did that transition happen into realizing that you were doing this and doing a good job at it in your life to helping other people? Was it something like were people asking you for help, and then you fell into that or was it something like, Hey, you really came to realize that, I actually am really good at this, maybe I should offer people help. So how did that happen for you?

Roman Mironov 7:14
That’s a great question. I’ve seen results in my life. That’s one thing. And I was getting better at my relationships. And I thought that I could share what I learned with other people, and that would help them as well. Especially because I saw them struggle a lot. That was one thing. And the other thing is what I – I felt them how they struggled. I felt their pain. And I wanted to help them stop that pain because actually, stopping the pain is easy. The most important part – what’s difficult is making a decision to do something about the pain. That’s it. That’s what I realized. And it was an important –

Richard Matthews 8:02
That’s how you got into the coaching aspect of it. Okay, so my next question for you is in your life, in your business, what would you say your superpower is that really allows you to help your clients, have enviable relationships?

Roman Mironov 8:21
The first thing that I need to say is that I do my best to be humble. So I wouldn’t say that I have a particular superpower. But thinking from that perspective, I would say that I am able to relate to people in a way that opens them up and creates a connection between us. So I feel that I have become more empathetic over the years and this is good for me as a coach because it helps me really to go with the client, understand them, and offer them help that makes sense from their perspective, not necessarily selling my own way of thinking, not necessarily going into the coaching to fix them.

Richard Matthews 9:18
So empathy is actually something I found is a – I have several guests that the superpower that they have is empathy. And it’s interesting that most of them are in the coaching space of some form or fashion. And when you get into the space where you’re coaching other people and helping them get results, whether that’s in relationships, or investing in real estate or other things, whenever you’re coaching someone, in order to get them to change their actions and get better results, you have to be able to empathize with them, and be able to find – basically, you have to put your advice as if you were coming from their perspective. Because if you come you come down and be like, hey, the way you’re doing it’s dumb and stupid. You should do it my way, you won’t get anywhere. So you have to have that empathy superpower where you can get into their head into their shoes into their spirit, so to speak, and speak to them and coach them and help them the way that they need it. So it’s absolutely, it’s a superpower. And one of my best friends I think he’s got his superpower is empathy. And it’s crazy to me that you can actually get in and see and understand the way other people see and understand the world and then give them advice that they understand because of it.

Roman Mironov 10:34
That’s right. And I’ve been working on this for a long time. And I want to – I’m really looking forward to deepening this in me as I meditate more, as I connect with and how I grow spiritual and more – I do hope that I will develop this superpower even further.

Richard Matthews 10:56
Awesome. So the flip side, of course, of the superpower is the fatal flaw. Superman has his Kryptonite. Wonder Woman can’t remove her bracelets of victory without going mad. You probably have a flaw that’s held you back in your business, something you’ve struggled with, maybe it’s perfectionism -something I struggled with – keeps you from shipping, or lack of self-care that means you let your clients walk all over you. Or maybe it’s something like being a visionary, but lacking the discipline to implement – also something I struggled with – but more important than what the flaw is, is I think, how have you worked on it in your business, so our listeners might be able to learn something from your experience with that.

Roman Mironov 11:36
For me, it’s always been workaholism, because it’s always been easy for me to focus on one thing, and then put all effort into it. And with time, I realized that this doesn’t work because, for one, it really keeps me stressed out all the time. I can’t relax because I’m focusing on doing a specific marketing channel. So if I focus on it 100% I keep thinking about it, even outside of my work. And then when the evening comes, it’s almost impossible for me to relax. So what I did – one thing that really helped me was taking the time every day, setting the time apart to relax and to do something that I love. For me, it’s listening to audiobooks, so I make sure that every evening no matter what, I sit down and I listen to an audiobook, or I take a bike ride. As a type-A personality, I need to have that time strategically set aside.

Richard Matthews 12:51
I find that in my own life as well. We talk about that regularly on the show, I call it giving yourself permission to play. And in business and in life, particularly we as a people, for whatever reason, we seem to think that that recreation and play is a prerequisite or is a reward for work well done. If you’ve done enough hard work, you earn the right to go out and play and relax and do those things. And what I found is that play and recreation is actually a prerequisite for doing good work. If you don’t actually relax and you don’t take care of yourself and you don’t let your body do what it needs to do then you don’t actually do good work, you don’t have that creativity in the stuff to come to your work well. So anyways, I talk all the time about giving yourself permission to play, and in your instance, it’s listening to audiobooks, going for bike rides. For me, it’s always hanging out with my kids and going hiking and that stuff.

Roman Mironov 13:47
Right. And this is especially important for creative people because I do believe that they need to tap this creativity in them and if they don’t let themselves relax or play, they stifle that creativity.

Richard Matthews 14:06
Absolutely. So I want to talk a little bit about practically some of the things that you actually do in your business, and I call the section your common enemy. So every superhero has an arch-nemesis, so to speak. It’s a thing that they consistently have to fight against in their world. In the world of business, it takes on many forms, but generally speaking, we put them in the context of your clients. So what’s a mindset or a flaw that you’re constantly having to fight to overcome with your clients so you can help them get better results in their relationships?

Roman Mironov 14:39
Well, it’s obviously a commitment. First of all, is difficult for people to sign up for coaching because they feel that it might take a lot of time. It might take a pretty hot, pretty big investment. So that makes it difficult to commit. And when they are into the coaching relationship, they feel like, oh, I’m already okay. So I have a coach I’m working on in this or that area of my life, and that’s already good. And then they might not commit fully to the goals that we set together. So, for example, let’s say, I tell them to have a deep conversation with their partner every day. And they do it twice a week, instead of doing it seven days per week, and then they come back and then they tell me, okay, I did not do that over the last week, and I say, Why were you not committed? That’s the problem. I would say that a lack of commitment on –

Richard Matthews 15:50
That commitment. So I have a follow-up question on that. And this is because you’re in one of the – I call it in a soft space and what I mean by that is that the result that you offer people is not financially trackable. So we do a lot of stuff in the marketing space in our business where we can say if you put out x number of podcasts you get x number of viewers and when you see X number of viewers X number of those turn into clients and you can guesstimate ROIs. You can guesstimate a return on the investment and be like hey, you’re getting a two or three x return on your investment with us. We’re essentially selling in our … selling our money at a discount. When you’re in a space like yours in a soft space where you’re saying, Hey, I’m going to help you improve your relationships, that doesn’t have a financial ROI. It’s more difficult to get that commitment either to buy or to buy into what you’re teaching them to do. So what are some of the tips and tricks you have for your own business and other people who are in soft markets, whether that’s health coaching, relationship coaching, or any of the things where there’s not a financial ROI? How do you get some of those commitments and actually do some of the things work that’s involved with it?

Roman Mironov 17:01
I think one of the best tips is to make sure that a client feels happier after the session. I mean, that might be often the main point of the session. Of course, the tips that I give the energy that I bring the solutions that we’ll find, those all are important. But in the end, if the client doesn’t feel happy after the session, it means that this will probably not work for them. they are not getting the value out of it. So that would be my best tip. And another more general tip is to actually work on specific goals, improving a relationship or forgetting about in the case of infidelity, stopping being jealous in a relationship but doing it while keeping a very general goal in mind, so whatever we focus on with a client, remember to make sure they’re happy. Focus on helping them feel less stress, and just be happy – just be happier in life in general. That’s the general goal. So the first one is to make sure the client feels better after every session and help them feel less stressed out and happier in general.

Richard Matthews 18:34
So, my next question for you then has to do with how you work in a space like relationships. So you talk about, hey, I want to improve your relationships. How do you know with the clients? How do you track that? How do you know when their relationships are improved? Is it a measure of happiness and stress? Or are there other things that you try to help the client measure in their life? So they’re looking at themselves like, my relationships are better today than when we started working together.

Roman Mironov 19:02
Well, let’s say I have a client right now, a woman, she’s 46. And she’s dating a guy who is 35. And she has this anxiety, because of the age gap. She likes him a lot. And she doesn’t want to lose him. So she has this fear and anxiety. And basically, we’re tracking this. In our first session, I asked her, where she was on a scale from one to 10 with this fear, and she said, well I’m a ten now, maybe at nine or 10. And as we work with her, we come back to that assessment and I asked her, so how’s fear now? And she says, well, now is six out of 10. Now I feel way more confident about that. That’s one way.

Richard Matthews 19:50
So you’re actually looking at specific feelings and things about the relationship and measuring them over time.

Roman Mironov 19:58
Yeah, exactly. And by the way, this doesn’t work offering the scales and asking these specific questions doesn’t work specifically well with women, because they prefer talking about – they prefer talking about emotions. And they’re not that logical sometimes. So, I would maybe recommend talking about them and getting their feelings in a conversational way. Not by assessing this mathematically.

Richard Matthews 20:36
Yeah, that makes sense. So, but my point in the question is that you have specific areas that you’re trying to work on and help them improve that feeling, whether that’s anxiety or stress or happiness, where you’re like, Hey, we’re here, and now you’re here, where they’re actually – you’re measuring the direct impact of those of the relationship improvement.

Roman Mironov 20:57
Yes.

Richard Matthews 20:59
So, my next question for you is, what does it look like for your clients afterwards? After you’re done working with someone what impact does working on your relationships have in their lives? Does it improve all the areas of their lives? Their work or their business or just romantic relationships? What’s the promise of improving your relationships? Why is it worth doing?

Roman Mironov 21:30
First of all, I need to say that it’s different for everyone. Because if someone gets three coaching sessions with me and wants to work on a very very specific problem, a very specific problem, like not being able to hold conversations with a spouse because the spouse criticizes them too much. That’s going to be a very different result. So this is a very, very, very specific area of their life. So it does improve their relationship, and it does improve all other areas. Whereas if someone works for me for a long time, and so some people work with me for many months. And this creates a very very serious effect in all areas of their life, even if we work just on their relationship, because, first of all, I also give them advice, and I work with them to improve other areas as well because you can’t actually just focus on the relationships. It’s more it’s, frankly, it’s impossible. And the third thing is that by doing a lot of months of coaching, we can improve the relationship to a point when it really – the happiness that the client feels from that improvement. It really spills over into all other areas, including business, and they actually realize that the things that we worked on in the relationship they can now go and apply in business. So for example, I usually help clients to learn how to be a better listener. Things like active listening, not interrupting, really appreciating what the person is telling you. This is all about unconditional love and unconditional love is just one of the most important things that I teach. And then they can actually go and apply all those skills in their business. And now they’re, they’re talking to their colleagues better. And everyone benefits including –

Richard Matthews 23:39
I agree. And I know personally, in my own life, as I have worked on becoming better at having relationships with my wife and with my kids, it’s made me a better boss, and with my employees, this made me a better person that – a fellow member of masterminds and stuff like that. So I can actually – particularly the act of listening, and actually when you’re in a mastermind with other people who are working on their things to be able to actually like, listen and really hear what their problems are and how you can help them. It’s a really important skill. And I’ve always believed that learning how to master relationships is the key for everything else. It’s one of those things that unlocks all of your other skills in life.

Roman Mironov 24:24
Exactly. It’s a foundational skill.

Richard Matthews 24:27
Yeah, foundational skill. So, the next question for you is your driving force. So the flip side of your common enemy is commitment. Your driving force is, is the thing that you fight for. So just like Spider-Man fights to save New York or Batman fights to save Gotham or Google fights to index and categorize all the world’s information. I want to know what it is that you fight for? Your mission, so to speak.

Roman Mironov 24:53
My mission is self-improvement for myself and my clients. I’ve been into self-improvement for more than 10 years. And I’m such a big fan of it. When I make even a small tweak somewhere in my life, I’m so excited. And I realized that I could feel the same level of excitement when I help my clients do that. Maybe even more excitement. It’s something that really really makes me feel fulfilled.

Richard Matthews 25:22
Absolutely. So the constant march of improvement, what is that? Have you read The Slight Edge? If you make a little bit of improvement every day, it snowballs over time. That’s the concept.

Roman Mironov 25:36
Yeah. That’s a good concept. … – a better version of yourself than you were yesterday.

Richard Matthews 25:47
I think one of the things that has been really powerful to me about that concept and self-improvement is looking at – you have big goals, things that you want to get to things that you want to do, and realizing that I don’t have to focus on everything at once. I can just focus on one small thing, something that’s easy to do today. So for example, as an example, one of the things that I wanted to do in my business was this podcast. And I was looking at it, like, I want to get to a point where we have thousands of listeners and hundreds of episodes and all sorts of things going when we first started that’s a huge goal. And I always think, we don’t have our production stuff together. I don’t have lights. I don’t have good microphones. I don’t have any of this stuff. How am I ever going to get to that point, I realized I need to do just one interview a week. Let’s just get an interview done. And now we’re a couple of years in, and we have hundreds of listeners and hundreds of episodes and we’ve got cool production level stuff, got all sorts going. So you take small steps every day. And eventually you can grow yourself into where you want to be, whether that’s with business or projects or relationships.

Roman Mironov 26:59
Exactly. Exactly, that’s the best way to approach any – changing anything in your life. And what I see my clients and other people fail with as is that they overcommit quickly. They set a big goal. And then they do it for a few days. It seems to work, but then they lose motivation because it seems really so far to achieve. …

Richard Matthews 27:27
It’s like, you’re just got enough commitment to have a conversation every day. It’s just one small thing at the end of everyday conversation with your significant other, and you do that every day. And it’s one of the things that builds and it creates a snowball effect in your life.

Roman Mironov 27:44
Yes, exactly. Exactly. Just an hour ago, I was talking to a client and we were thinking about how he could improve his relationship with his wife and we came with two very simple things, to begin with. Two very small steps. And the first one is to come home earlier. And the second one is pour wine, a glass of wine to his wife every evening because she loves that. And he never does that because he comes home late.

Richard Matthews 28:21
It’s a nice small commitment that you can make. One of the things I do with my wife all the time is every time I see her, she washes the dishes in our house, and she hates washing the dishes. And so every time I see her doing it, I always go up behind her and give her a hug and a kiss on the neck and say, Hey, thank you for doing that. And it’s a small thing. But I know she doesn’t like doing it but I know she does it for our family. So I always go and make sure that I appreciate her for it. And it makes a big difference.

Roman Mironov 28:50
Phenomenal. Yeah, perfect.

Richard Matthews 28:54
Well, thank you.

Roman Mironov 28:55
– relationship coach.

Richard Matthews 28:58
Maybe eventually one of these days, we’ll get into doing something like that. At least with my kids, I’ll help them learn how to have relationships.

Roman Mironov 29:05
Exactly.

Richard Matthews 29:07
So, I want to flip and talk a little about some of the practical things that you do in your business. I call this portion of the show the Hero’s Toolbelt. So just like every superhero has a tool belt with awesome gadgets, like batarangs or web slingers, talk about one or two tools that you use in your business that you couldn’t live without. It could be anything from your notepad to your calendar, to your marking tools, to something that you use to actually deliver your services. Anything that you think is essential to getting the job done, what are the top one or two favorite tools you use in your business every day to make it go around?

Roman Mironov 29:41
Well, my favorite tool is YouTube, actually. Because I, first of all, I love releasing new videos, and I love helping and touching people’s hearts through my videos and that that’s my hope with every video that I released, and I’ve been getting clients through YouTube so this has worked for me. And I do believe that in a domain like mine coaching, it’s very important to put yourself out there so that people see you, they can feel your vibe, and whether they can actually resonate with your vibe. And then they can decide whether you are a coach that they could work with.

Richard Matthews 30:26
It makes a lot of sense. So when it comes to your YouTube channel, tell us a little bit about it, what content you put out there? How often do you do it? And how do you actually direct people into your, from your YouTube stuff for some of our listeners, might be interested in getting started doing that marketing?

Roman Mironov 30:46
Okay, first of all, now I release videos about one time per month. I started with one video per week but they were not getting too many views. So I decided to scale down and focus on quality instead of quantity and, and I felt that there, there’s been Yeah, that was a good move. Because there are so many videos on YouTube. And I think by doing a lot of videos, it’s very hard to stand out. They’re very average videos. What I do is that I always include a call to action at the end of every video. So I tell people to learn more about my coaching and actually approach me with coaching. And that’s what they do. I also include a link to a free checklist on my YouTube page, and some people come through that link.

Richard Matthews 31:48
So you’re putting out high-quality content once a month, that drives into either your checklist or other things and that’s been really driving sales for you or driving more relationships for you. I guess to follow on to that. When you say high-quality content, are you talking about high production value? Have you got a film crew following you around? Are you talking about high-quality content that’s teaching specific things? What quality are you talking about?

Roman Mironov 32:19
Yeah, I’m talking about teaching very very specific things. Make it more visually appealing, the video. So by editing it, by adding graphics, making it funnier, so that people can remember it better and making it better, better overall so that people can – to make it easier for the viewers to actually understand what I want them to understand.

Richard Matthews 32:54
Reminds me of something that Tony Robbins said when he was teaching videos and stuff is you have to have the three E’s, which is to empower, educate, and entertain. You have to have all three of them. If you want people to actually pay attention, you have to empower them to do something. You have to educate them, and you have to entertain them at the same time.

Roman Mironov 33:14
Yeah, three E’s. Yeah. Good approach.

Richard Matthews 33:17
Yeah. So I didn’t come up with that. I stole it from Tony Robbins. So, next question for you is about your own –

Richard Matthews 33:22
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Richard Matthews 33:27
So I didn’t come up with that. I stole it from Tony Robbins. So, the next question for you is about your own … So every hero has their mentor. So Frodo had Gandalf, Luke had Obi-Wan, Robert Kiyosaki had his Rich Dad, Spider-Man has Uncle Ben. Who were some of your heroes? Were they real-life mentors? Were they speakers, authors, maybe peers who were a couple years ahead of you, and how important were they to what you’ve accomplished so far in building a relationship coaching business?

Roman Mironov 35:01
Well, that definitely has been Tony Robbins, because he was one of the first motivational speakers that I started to listen to and relate to back, 10 years ago, so he was the one who started me on this journey. And I actually completed his program. He’s in a coaching program.

Richard Matthews 35:51
Yeah, he’s got some good programs. What is it, Unleash The Power Within, I haven’t been through that. But everyone I’ve heard who’s gone through it. It’s changed their lives.

Roman Mironov 36:01
Yeah, it’s a good program, I took the life coaching program which is called core 100. And it’s for people who want to become coaches. So it’s different from Unleash The Power Within or Date For Destiny. But that’s how I became a coach. I got the tools, many tools that I use now in my practice.

Richard Matthews 36:22
That’s cool. So I want to talk a little bit about your guiding principles. So one of the things that makes heroes heroic is that they live by a code. So for instance, Batman never kills his enemies, he brings them to Arkham Asylum. So as we wrap up the interview, talk about top one or two principles that you use regularly in your life, maybe something that you wish you’d known when you started out on your hero’s journey.

Roman Mironov 36:49
Probably the biggest principle that I’ve been wrapping my head around recently is authenticity. I want to be more authentic in everything I do, including my marketing, including my coaching practice and talking to other people, and including my family, my friends, and strangers. I realized that by suppressing what I am, when I talk to people by putting out this facade, I’m not relatable, I’m not genuine, I make it difficult for people to relate to me. And I always feel that when I do that, when I, for example, tell a quick lie to a person. I realized that I’m suppressing something in myself, whereas when I tell the truth, and I’m authentic, I’m not hiding myself. I feel so much better because actually, I believe that this is when the unconditional love that I have is, it’s wanted. It really gets out and I’m able to share it by being authentic, that’s been the biggest realization of this year, I would say.

Richard Matthews 38:08
I’m actually going through something similar in my life and just look. Not that I haven’t been authentic over the course of my last couple of years, but the idea that I can, you can take who you are and really, turn it up to 11 so to speak. And share that with the world because when you are, all the way authentic, when you turn yourself up to 11 people can really connect with you, they can see you and especially when we’re doing – where we are here where we have such a disconnected connection. So everything from watching what people watching you on YouTube to doing virtual communications on Zoom and things like that our whole life and if people are interacting with each other over social media In order to have the same level of connection that you might have in person, you have to turn that authenticity up a bit. You have to – almost like you’re performing on stage. You have the people in the back have to be able to see your emotions and see who you are. So it’s almost like you have to be extra authentic.

Roman Mironov 39:21
Maybe. That’s an interesting perspective.

Richard Matthews 39:24
Yeah, that’s a thought that’s been going on in my head. I don’t know where that goes. But that’s basically a wrap on our interview. But as I finish up, every interview is something I call the hero challenge. And we did this at the end, basically to help us access new stories that we might not find on our own. So the question is pretty simple. Do you have someone in your life or in your network that you think has a cool entrepreneurial story? Who are their first names are fine and why should they come share their story on our show?

Roman Mironov 39:56
I have a – Actually I know a coach whose name is AJ Mihrzad. And he has a fantastic story to tell about like, his house was burned one day and he didn’t have money and how he pulled himself out of that. And now he is. He’s a very successful coach and online entrepreneur.

Richard Matthews 40:24
Awesome. Well, we’ll see if we can reach out later and connect about … Thank you for that. And so … comic books, there’s always the crowd who claps for their acts of heroism in tears, and thanks them for their work. So as we close up this interview, what I want to do in lieu of the clapping and thank you here’s to find out where people can find you. If they want to reach out to you if they want to watch your YouTube videos and learn all about improving their relationships, reach out to you as a coach, where can they find you? And I guess the next question and probably the most important one is who are the right types of people to say hey, you know what, Roman, I’d really really like your help. Who are the right types of people to reach out and say that?

Roman Mironov 41:04
Please go to my website which is https://romanmironov.com/ And hit the contact button and sign up for a no-fee relationship breakthrough session with me. It’s solely free and we’ll go from there. And remember to tell me that you’re coming off The HERO Show. So that I will give you a 30% discount of any coaching package that you get. And this is to answer your second question, the best – my best clients are people who struggle with their relationships in any way that includes infidelity, finding the level of their life, saving the marriage. Things like porn addiction and the second part is what makes you a great client is your commitment. It’s very important because as a coach, I will do my best to hold you accountable, to help you set goals, to give you practical tips that are specific to your situation. So I will do what I can. But if you’re not committed to our work together, this won’t work.

Richard Matthews 42:25
Absolutely. So if you’re in that space, and you’re looking to improve your relationships, definitely take the time to check out Roman. We’ll put the link to his website in the description below, and on our website, so you can check that out in the show notes. And, Roman, thank you so much for coming on the show today. Really appreciate it. Do you have any final words of wisdom before we hit this stop record button and …

Roman Mironov 42:48
Yeah, I would. I would recommend you to think of your relationship as your business or your work. You spend a lot of time there. You might spend at least eight hours on a weekday and if you don’t do that, it’s very likely that you will deteriorate and you will probably lose it. And the same thing with relationships, you need to work on your relationships somehow. We believe that we know how to be a good partner in a relationship by default, but that’s not true. You need to learn about relationships and you need to practice what you learn.

Richard Matthews 43:32
I agree again, thank you so much for coming on the show today. Really appreciate it.

Roman Mironov 43:37
Thank you, Richard. It’s a pleasure. Thank you.